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Yes, I read the thread thrice still didn't understand how that makes github political, especially when the company makes $ on enterprise customers. Is the opal

Yes, I read the thread thrice still didn't understand how that makes github political, especially when the company makes $ on enterprise customers. Is the opal project managed by Github?

flukus 10y ago
They hired the professional victim to prosecute anyone that dares to disagree with SJW rightthink. A contributor was forced to leave the project. All over issues that had nothing to do with the project. That's an issue.
- jolux 10y ago
  Again, do you have evidence that this is actually happening? All I see is a lot of hay made over an issue that the project itself resolved (as well it should have been) from which point it launches into conspiracy theories about what's going to happen now that Coraline is in their employ. She was hired in February, a good 10 months ago. Has anything else happened as you suggest it would to cause concern in this vein since then, or is this all just speculation?
  - flukus 10y ago
    It's not an isolated incident, there was also the code of conduct that makes it clear where GitHub is heading, and that is getting coding mixed up with politics.
    - jolux 10y ago
      What? This? https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-condu... That's from July 2015, a full seven months before she was hired.
      - flukus 10y ago
        I never said she was responsible for it, but the same line of thinking behind that is what allowed a professional bully to get hired in the first place.
        jolux 10y ago
        Professional bully? She's a Ruby developer, and a damned good one at that by all accounts. Even if you choose to categorize her as a "bully," it's very evident that "bullying" is a hobby of hers and not related to how well she does her job (programming). If her contributions to community management software are valuable, what does it matter her politics? I reiterate that if you are looking for a place to host your code where a) nobody has political opinions or b) everybody agrees with you about everything, you will never find it. You may be the only person in the whole world without any political opinions whatsoever. I realize that's difficult and I applaud your intellectual independence.
        flukus 10y ago
        > If her contributions to community management software are valuable, what does it matter her politics? Because she has chased away other good developers by bullying them and is now in a position of authority. > I reiterate that if you are looking for a place to host your code where a) nobody has political opinions or b) everybody agrees with you about everything, you will never find it. What? We had exactly that for decades, code hosts that were completely neutral on politics. I don't care if people disagree with me, as long as it has nothing to do with the projects. In fact, it's what made the open source world special, no one gave a fuck who you were as long as you produced good code. Now it's been invaded by people that think meritocracy is a bad idea. Your building up quite a straw man there.
        camgunz 10y ago
        When you argue for the "absence of politics", you're actually arguing for the "default politics we've had for generations", which is heteronormative, euro-centric, etc. The "absence of politics" leads to widespread usage of anti-LGBT, anti-women, and anti-minority slurs and policies that disadvantage those groups by not recognizing their institutional disadvantage.

Yes, I read the thread thrice still didn't understand how that makes github political, especially when the company makes $ on enterprise customers. Is the opal project managed by Github?

flukus 10y ago

They hired the professional victim to prosecute anyone that dares to disagree with SJW rightthink. A contributor was forced to leave the project. All over issues that had nothing to do with the project. That's an issue.

jolux 10y ago
Again, do you have evidence that this is actually happening? All I see is a lot of hay made over an issue that the project itself resolved (as well it should have been) from which point it launches into conspiracy theories about what's going to happen now that Coraline is in their employ. She was hired in February, a good 10 months ago. Has anything else happened as you suggest it would to cause concern in this vein since then, or is this all just speculation?
- flukus 10y ago
  It's not an isolated incident, there was also the code of conduct that makes it clear where GitHub is heading, and that is getting coding mixed up with politics.
  - jolux 10y ago
    What? This? https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-conduct https://github.com/blog/2039-adopting-the-open-code-of-condu... That's from July 2015, a full seven months before she was hired.
    - flukus 10y ago
      I never said she was responsible for it, but the same line of thinking behind that is what allowed a professional bully to get hired in the first place.
      - jolux 10y ago
        Professional bully? She's a Ruby developer, and a damned good one at that by all accounts. Even if you choose to categorize her as a "bully," it's very evident that "bullying" is a hobby of hers and not related to how well she does her job (programming). If her contributions to community management software are valuable, what does it matter her politics? I reiterate that if you are looking for a place to host your code where a) nobody has political opinions or b) everybody agrees with you about everything, you will never find it. You may be the only person in the whole world without any political opinions whatsoever. I realize that's difficult and I applaud your intellectual independence.
        flukus 10y ago
        > If her contributions to community management software are valuable, what does it matter her politics? Because she has chased away other good developers by bullying them and is now in a position of authority. > I reiterate that if you are looking for a place to host your code where a) nobody has political opinions or b) everybody agrees with you about everything, you will never find it. What? We had exactly that for decades, code hosts that were completely neutral on politics. I don't care if people disagree with me, as long as it has nothing to do with the projects. In fact, it's what made the open source world special, no one gave a fuck who you were as long as you produced good code. Now it's been invaded by people that think meritocracy is a bad idea. Your building up quite a straw man there.
        camgunz 10y ago
        When you argue for the "absence of politics", you're actually arguing for the "default politics we've had for generations", which is heteronormative, euro-centric, etc. The "absence of politics" leads to widespread usage of anti-LGBT, anti-women, and anti-minority slurs and policies that disadvantage those groups by not recognizing their institutional disadvantage.