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Can you really put something in "maintenance" mode without killing it? Maintaining the app and not moving forward with new features and adding value (because o

by asenna 10y ago

Can you really put something in "maintenance" mode without killing it? Maintaining the app and not moving forward with new features and adding value (because of lack of resources), I would assume it would just die eventually.

hyperbovine 10y ago
I don't understand this obsession with the first derivative of value. GitHub already provides loads of value. I understand they need resources to keep the lights on, but they could do that by recouping a tiny fee from their users and most everyone would be happy.
- lowmess 10y ago
  don't they already attempt to do that though? i don't consider $7/month a large fee. (granted, they could probably get more subscribers at $3-5, but i'm assuming they landed on $7 for a reason)
  - sitkack 10y ago
    They make vast more quantities off of actual businesses. The $7 repo fee is literally a soft wind on the face of Everest.
- Trundle 10y ago
  They're not without alternatives already though. In a changing environment to stay still is to fall behind.
  - hyperbovine 10y ago
    That's not as big an issue when there are network effects -- look at Craigslist. Plus, what killer feature is bitbucket going to add at this point to make everyone want to switch? They're practically the same product. All the major innovation happened years ago.
    - rumcajz 10y ago
      Clickable code view would be nice, e.g: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v4.9/kernel/async.c http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v4.9/kernel/async.c
      - tome 10y ago
        This would be wonderful.
      - robinhood 10y ago
        Thanks for the idea. This would be awesome indeed. I've created an issue on GitLab for this: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/25762 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/25762
  - TeMPOraL 10y ago
    And to move is to risk a quick death. I wished existing brands stopped innovating so much. That's e.g. what got Pebble killed. Doubly so when a brand reaches infrastructure level - like Github, or arguably Dropbox. Just don't screw with the product that's working well. Not breaking things isn't expensive.
daxorid 10y ago
...it's a source control company. What additional features could I possibly want? They serve their purpose just fine.
curried_haskell 10y ago
I really hate this, because this is what bloats and kills products. It's never complete, it always needs more features, until it implodes. It's the corpse model of product development.

by asenna 10y ago

hyperbovine 10y ago

I don't understand this obsession with the first derivative of value. GitHub already provides loads of value. I understand they need resources to keep the lights on, but they could do that by recouping a tiny fee from their users and most everyone would be happy.

lowmess 10y ago
don't they already attempt to do that though? i don't consider $7/month a large fee. (granted, they could probably get more subscribers at $3-5, but i'm assuming they landed on $7 for a reason)
- sitkack 10y ago
  They make vast more quantities off of actual businesses. The $7 repo fee is literally a soft wind on the face of Everest.
Trundle 10y ago
They're not without alternatives already though. In a changing environment to stay still is to fall behind.
- hyperbovine 10y ago
  That's not as big an issue when there are network effects -- look at Craigslist. Plus, what killer feature is bitbucket going to add at this point to make everyone want to switch? They're practically the same product. All the major innovation happened years ago.
  - rumcajz 10y ago
    Clickable code view would be nice, e.g: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v4.9/kernel/async.c http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v4.9/kernel/async.c
    - tome 10y ago
      This would be wonderful.
    - robinhood 10y ago
      Thanks for the idea. This would be awesome indeed. I've created an issue on GitLab for this: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/25762 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/25762
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  And to move is to risk a quick death. I wished existing brands stopped innovating so much. That's e.g. what got Pebble killed. Doubly so when a brand reaches infrastructure level - like Github, or arguably Dropbox. Just don't screw with the product that's working well. Not breaking things isn't expensive.

daxorid 10y ago

...it's a source control company. What additional features could I possibly want? They serve their purpose just fine.

curried_haskell 10y ago

I really hate this, because this is what bloats and kills products. It's never complete, it always needs more features, until it implodes. It's the corpse model of product development.