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>In early May, speaking before a cheering West Virginia crowd filled with miners wearing hard hats or holding “Trump Digs Coal” signs, the then-Republican nomin

>In early May, speaking before a cheering West Virginia crowd filled with miners wearing hard hats or holding “Trump Digs Coal” signs, the then-Republican nominee pledged: “Get ready because you’re going to be working your asses off.” Guess not.

omegaworks 10y ago
He'll just give coal a huge tax incentive like he gave Carrier. He has no problems spending other people's money to prop up market failures, especially when it makes him look good. Just ask the creditors that funded his Atlantic City boondoggle.
- adventured 10y ago
  What huge tax incentives? $7 million over 10 years for 1,100 jobs. Those jobs are worth half a billion dollars in income over ten years. That income generates local, state and federal taxes and supports the local economy. If the pittance of $700k per year was a clincher, it's beyond a good deal in every possible regard.
  - tasty_freeze 10y ago
    Why didn't Pence do that years ago then? It also wasn't 1,100 jobs. And there is no promise that those jobs will remain for 10 years.
    - 234dd57d2c8db 10y ago
      Maybe Trump is just actually good at negotiating like you'd expect a NY real-estate mogul to be. He might say dumb stuff but you have to admit, it isn't easy succeeding the Manhattan 5th ave. type real-estate.
      - woodandsteel 10y ago
        The problem is he is a real-estate mogul. Manufacturing is a whole different thing.
aaron695 10y ago
An implication you do not like Trump is uninsightful and OT. An implication Trump doesn't like clean energy is uninsightful and OT. The, us against them (in this case miners, not exactly the 1%) is not healthy and OT.
- Analemma_ 10y ago
  > The, us against them (in this case miners, not exactly the 1%) is not healthy and OT. Yeah, it sure is frustrating when people don't help promote social stability by refusing to love your preferred leader isn't it? Welcome to our lives for the last eight years, when we've had to hear about how "divisive" Obama is, as evidenced by the fact that people don't like him because he's so divisive.
- kibwen 10y ago
  Trump is the president-elect, and it's our civic duty to call out elected officials making misleading or outlandish claims, just like we've been calling out Obama for his stance on surveillance and whistleblowing for years now. This is especially true for the long-debunked claim that coal jobs can be brought back, despite the perpetual coal pandering of every politician under the sun. And I say that as someone who spent the first two decades of his life in Appalachia, though mine was a crumbling former oil town rather than a crumbling former coal town.
  - aaron695 10y ago
    > Trump is the president-elect Last I checked he is not. Elections were years ago and we don't have presidents. And now we are wildly off topic on what might have been an interesting topic, can solar beat wind.

omegaworks 10y ago

He'll just give coal a huge tax incentive like he gave Carrier. He has no problems spending other people's money to prop up market failures, especially when it makes him look good. Just ask the creditors that funded his Atlantic City boondoggle.

adventured 10y ago
What huge tax incentives? $7 million over 10 years for 1,100 jobs. Those jobs are worth half a billion dollars in income over ten years. That income generates local, state and federal taxes and supports the local economy. If the pittance of $700k per year was a clincher, it's beyond a good deal in every possible regard.
- tasty_freeze 10y ago
  Why didn't Pence do that years ago then? It also wasn't 1,100 jobs. And there is no promise that those jobs will remain for 10 years.
  - 234dd57d2c8db 10y ago
    Maybe Trump is just actually good at negotiating like you'd expect a NY real-estate mogul to be. He might say dumb stuff but you have to admit, it isn't easy succeeding the Manhattan 5th ave. type real-estate.
    - woodandsteel 10y ago
      The problem is he is a real-estate mogul. Manufacturing is a whole different thing.

aaron695 10y ago

An implication you do not like Trump is uninsightful and OT. An implication Trump doesn't like clean energy is uninsightful and OT. The, us against them (in this case miners, not exactly the 1%) is not healthy and OT.

Analemma_ 10y ago
> The, us against them (in this case miners, not exactly the 1%) is not healthy and OT. Yeah, it sure is frustrating when people don't help promote social stability by refusing to love your preferred leader isn't it? Welcome to our lives for the last eight years, when we've had to hear about how "divisive" Obama is, as evidenced by the fact that people don't like him because he's so divisive.
kibwen 10y ago
Trump is the president-elect, and it's our civic duty to call out elected officials making misleading or outlandish claims, just like we've been calling out Obama for his stance on surveillance and whistleblowing for years now. This is especially true for the long-debunked claim that coal jobs can be brought back, despite the perpetual coal pandering of every politician under the sun. And I say that as someone who spent the first two decades of his life in Appalachia, though mine was a crumbling former oil town rather than a crumbling former coal town.
- aaron695 10y ago
  > Trump is the president-elect Last I checked he is not. Elections were years ago and we don't have presidents. And now we are wildly off topic on what might have been an interesting topic, can solar beat wind.