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I understand why making a different IDE for every language is good for business, but I hate having to jump around to a different program for every different lan

I understand why making a different IDE for every language is good for business, but I hate having to jump around to a different program for every different language I use, especially when pretty much all the IntelliJ derivatives are the same but with different plugins using the same plugin architecture. It seems redundant.

mlinhares 10y ago
You don't have to if you're an IntelliJ Ultimate subscriber, it has all IDEs in it.
- generic_user 10y ago
  I would much rather see them sell a basic editor that you could buy specific language upgrades for as you need them.
- KallDrexx 10y ago
  I was under the impression that the IntelliJ ultimate plugins lagged behind the specific IDE implementations.
  - smacktoward 10y ago
    They also offer an "All Products" subscription that lets you use all their various IDEs separately, if you prefer that approach.
    - KallDrexx 10y ago
      Right and I have that, but it would be nice to just use IntelliJ Ultimate without sacrificing features in Rider, Webstorm, etc...
      - geoelectric 10y ago
        I'd try the plugins then. I like the separate IDEs because they tend to optimize workflows for the language in question without any extra JVM-configuration cruft, but the plugins really do replicate 99% of the functionality. For the other 1% (or if the plugin is lagging behind some killer feature release for a week or two) fall back on the separate IDE.
        KallDrexx 10y ago
        I definitely don't need that 1% usually, a long long time ago I thought I read they were massively (like months) behind the plugins, so it's good to know that's not the case.
        geoelectric 10y ago
        I think there were a few releases where the lag was bigger, particularly in the early days of PyCharm. My take is as the IDEs have matured it's shrunk considerably.
  - konart 10y ago
    Not really. The plugins are update almost at the same time as their native IDE products. Maybe a week of a difference.
  - dantiberian 10y ago
    Sometimes, but not always.
- realharo 10y ago
  There is no CLion plugin for IDEA (yet).
generic_user 10y ago
after using vim and emacs for so long and occasionally eclipse this looks like a step backward. I routinely have two or three different language files open and can work on them simply by switching buffers. It saves a lot of time and clicking. I like some of JetBrains products but having to buy three different editors to do the same work I can do now is a bit of a turn off.
- rhodysurf 10y ago
  Agreed, it has pushed me back to using sublime/vim and scripts for my projects. Also Eclipse gets a lot of hate, but when I was in college it handled our AUV source code with Python, Java, and C++ all in one project so nicely. I don't really know another IDE can that can handle that situation as well.
  - generic_user 10y ago
    > I don't really know another IDE can that can handle that situation as well. Eclipse gets even more hate and some of it is deserved. They had a few bad releases. But the newest neon release has addressed most of the mistakes they made. Eclipse has wonderful code completion for C++ even gcc on windows with custom libraries. And there are language plugins for Go, Python, Lua and many others that work quite well.

mlinhares 10y ago

You don't have to if you're an IntelliJ Ultimate subscriber, it has all IDEs in it.

generic_user 10y ago
I would much rather see them sell a basic editor that you could buy specific language upgrades for as you need them.
KallDrexx 10y ago
I was under the impression that the IntelliJ ultimate plugins lagged behind the specific IDE implementations.
- smacktoward 10y ago
  They also offer an "All Products" subscription that lets you use all their various IDEs separately, if you prefer that approach.
  - KallDrexx 10y ago
    Right and I have that, but it would be nice to just use IntelliJ Ultimate without sacrificing features in Rider, Webstorm, etc...
    - geoelectric 10y ago
      I'd try the plugins then. I like the separate IDEs because they tend to optimize workflows for the language in question without any extra JVM-configuration cruft, but the plugins really do replicate 99% of the functionality. For the other 1% (or if the plugin is lagging behind some killer feature release for a week or two) fall back on the separate IDE.
      - KallDrexx 10y ago
        I definitely don't need that 1% usually, a long long time ago I thought I read they were massively (like months) behind the plugins, so it's good to know that's not the case.
        geoelectric 10y ago
        I think there were a few releases where the lag was bigger, particularly in the early days of PyCharm. My take is as the IDEs have matured it's shrunk considerably.
- konart 10y ago
  Not really. The plugins are update almost at the same time as their native IDE products. Maybe a week of a difference.
- dantiberian 10y ago
  Sometimes, but not always.
realharo 10y ago
There is no CLion plugin for IDEA (yet).

generic_user 10y ago

after using vim and emacs for so long and occasionally eclipse this looks like a step backward. I routinely have two or three different language files open and can work on them simply by switching buffers. It saves a lot of time and clicking. I like some of JetBrains products but having to buy three different editors to do the same work I can do now is a bit of a turn off.

rhodysurf 10y ago
Agreed, it has pushed me back to using sublime/vim and scripts for my projects. Also Eclipse gets a lot of hate, but when I was in college it handled our AUV source code with Python, Java, and C++ all in one project so nicely. I don't really know another IDE can that can handle that situation as well.
- generic_user 10y ago
  > I don't really know another IDE can that can handle that situation as well. Eclipse gets even more hate and some of it is deserved. They had a few bad releases. But the newest neon release has addressed most of the mistakes they made. Eclipse has wonderful code completion for C++ even gcc on windows with custom libraries. And there are language plugins for Go, Python, Lua and many others that work quite well.