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If they are doing this at Yahoo, what proof do we have they are not doing this at Google...right at this moment?

• polack 10y ago
  One would have to be really naive to believe that Google, Apple and the other big ones aren't backdoored by the three letter agencies by now.
  • benevol 10y ago
    You'd be surprised that there are still (technically competent) HN users who seem to be that naive. Or to promote gv't propaganda. Our only solution is to go 100% open-source and 100% end-to-end encryption.
    • zeratax 10y ago
      Many decentralized projects really give me hope for a secure and private internet. Though there are still big problems with those systems (e.g. sybil attacks and what not) and general adoption rate. But you do already see block-chain technology used by huge industries like for diamonds and projects like ZeroNet are surprisingly user friendly and visually pleasing (though sadly most zites use a centralized identity authority.)
    • coldcode 10y ago
      And the government has the power to ban open source and encrypted communications. It's not really all that difficult, if you eliminate any concern for the constitution. If all else fails, rubber hoses and bullets work well.
      • jstanley 10y ago
        That won't work. People will just do it anyway. Just look at how well alcohol prohibition worked. That's part of the beauty of open source - once the cat is out of the bag, there is no getting it back in.