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Show HN: A humble copycat of hackernews in Greek for Greek news

7 points by kurosiwo 10y ago

elkos 10y ago
We should post more Greek related stuff over there I guess :D
- kurosiwo 10y ago
  Working on it :)
elkos 10y ago
I would def. appreciate the "+1" in front of the article title not following it to be honest.
- kurosiwo 10y ago
  Consider it done!
arekkas 10y ago
greek guy here, why not focus on things outside of the daily news-hype-cycle? aren't there enough news aggregators already? we're already being told by twitter, facebook, tv, google news and our friends what's happening in brussels or in syria or in russia or in the us.
- kurosiwo 10y ago
  The key is not the news but the discussions around them. What I love about HN is not the news per se, but the intelligent and interesting opinions and discussions that follow. I have learned so much here and open my mind to so many different point of views and would love to see something similar about Greek news, especially politics. It is not about inventing something new, or trying to make something great(software-wise), but instead providing a safe and neutral environment to enjoy intelligent discussions. The last time I checked the discussions in the current popular news site I was utterly dissapointed by the quality of the comments. That was the main reasoning behind it.
  - arekkas 10y ago
    the discussion on HN is interesting, because it's NOT about the hyped news of the day (and HN even got rid of all the trump articles, which is really good imo). HN is about interesting topics from a specific field, which attracts a lot of bright minds. that's what makes it special. compare this to reddit, same thing there. each subreddit is dedicated to a very specific topic, which creates a community, which in turn may result in good discussions.
    - kurosiwo 10y ago
      I don't completely agree. It is not the topic alone, you need some ground rules as well. Compare HN to slahdot, where both are focused on the same field. I understand that it might be a bit more difficult to cultivate the same environment for politics, but why not try since there are no better alternatives? It is really not a significant investment in time or resources.
atmosx 10y ago
Hi there, Another Greek guy here! First thing, congrats for rolling this out. This is one of the 300 things I wanted to do but never got around it. A few things I would do differently: 1) I would have chosen a more self explanatory name (e.g. technews.gr, hackerbits.gr, 1024bits.gr, etc.) 2) You seem to have rolled out your own implementation which is interesting. I would have used lobsters[1] which is based on RoR. Lobsters is a responsive, battle tested, community driven effort. Broadly speaking, this looks more like an effort to learn about programming while working on something interesting, than an effort to create a community (i.e. You're focussing on programming and not in recruiting users and content-creation). HN is primarily a community. Good luck with everything! :-) [1]: https://github.com/jcs/lobsters https://github.com/jcs/lobsters
- kurosiwo 10y ago
  Hey, thanks for your comment and the link to "lobsters". In regards to (2) the reason behind it is that in contrast to good software engineers practices, I prefer to write my own code for small and simple things like this, so I know the code inside-out, rather than using some off-the-self much more complicated and of course powerful solution, which would take me more time just to get familiar with. Especially for a project like this, I thought it would be much more fun to have a small, easy to inspect, understand and hack, code-base so anyone interested can get up to speed fast. You are absolutely right that the most important thing is building a community, and I only come to realize now :D

7 points by kurosiwo 10y ago

elkos 10y ago

We should post more Greek related stuff over there I guess :D

kurosiwo 10y ago
Working on it :)

elkos 10y ago

I would def. appreciate the "+1" in front of the article title not following it to be honest.

kurosiwo 10y ago
Consider it done!

arekkas 10y ago

greek guy here, why not focus on things outside of the daily news-hype-cycle? aren't there enough news aggregators already? we're already being told by twitter, facebook, tv, google news and our friends what's happening in brussels or in syria or in russia or in the us.

kurosiwo 10y ago
The key is not the news but the discussions around them. What I love about HN is not the news per se, but the intelligent and interesting opinions and discussions that follow. I have learned so much here and open my mind to so many different point of views and would love to see something similar about Greek news, especially politics. It is not about inventing something new, or trying to make something great(software-wise), but instead providing a safe and neutral environment to enjoy intelligent discussions. The last time I checked the discussions in the current popular news site I was utterly dissapointed by the quality of the comments. That was the main reasoning behind it.
- arekkas 10y ago
  the discussion on HN is interesting, because it's NOT about the hyped news of the day (and HN even got rid of all the trump articles, which is really good imo). HN is about interesting topics from a specific field, which attracts a lot of bright minds. that's what makes it special. compare this to reddit, same thing there. each subreddit is dedicated to a very specific topic, which creates a community, which in turn may result in good discussions.
  - kurosiwo 10y ago
    I don't completely agree. It is not the topic alone, you need some ground rules as well. Compare HN to slahdot, where both are focused on the same field. I understand that it might be a bit more difficult to cultivate the same environment for politics, but why not try since there are no better alternatives? It is really not a significant investment in time or resources.

atmosx 10y ago

Hi there, Another Greek guy here! First thing, congrats for rolling this out. This is one of the 300 things I wanted to do but never got around it. A few things I would do differently: 1) I would have chosen a more self explanatory name (e.g. technews.gr, hackerbits.gr, 1024bits.gr, etc.) 2) You seem to have rolled out your own implementation which is interesting. I would have used lobsters[1] which is based on RoR. Lobsters is a responsive, battle tested, community driven effort. Broadly speaking, this looks more like an effort to learn about programming while working on something interesting, than an effort to create a community (i.e. You're focussing on programming and not in recruiting users and content-creation). HN is primarily a community. Good luck with everything! :-) [1]: https://github.com/jcs/lobsters https://github.com/jcs/lobsters

kurosiwo 10y ago
Hey, thanks for your comment and the link to "lobsters". In regards to (2) the reason behind it is that in contrast to good software engineers practices, I prefer to write my own code for small and simple things like this, so I know the code inside-out, rather than using some off-the-self much more complicated and of course powerful solution, which would take me more time just to get familiar with. Especially for a project like this, I thought it would be much more fun to have a small, easy to inspect, understand and hack, code-base so anyone interested can get up to speed fast. You are absolutely right that the most important thing is building a community, and I only come to realize now :D