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Excuse me? As someone who uses package forwarding services to get things that don't ship outside America, I can assure you I'm not a "scam".

mperham 10y ago
For every one of you, there's a dozen scammers.
- Dylan16807 10y ago
  Then say 90%
  - ohyoutravel 10y ago
    As long as we're being pedantic, it's way more than 90%.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      The difference between it being certainly a scam vs. not certainly a scam is much more than a pedantic nitpick.
      - tempestn 10y ago
        Yes, but if you charitably take the point as being that sellers should assume it is certainly a scam, then it holds.
        Dylan16807 10y ago
        But it needs an addendum that that might be a real customer and you should ideally have some way to purchase with additional verification, not just cutting them off and thinking no more of it because who cares about scammers.
- lisivka 10y ago
  „Scammer“ will pay for mailing to Package Forwarding Service + mailing to his country and PFS fee + VAT + then mailing back to USA + money exchange fee at top of all that. About $200 in this case. Too much for a scam.
op00to 10y ago
For values as astonishingly small as the percentage of legitimate eBay shoppers using a Ukrainian package forwarding service, that works out to zero.
ars 10y ago
eBay does that as a service, it's not hard to ship to international sellers via eBay. So it's perfectly inline to refuse to ship to such address via eBay.
pmtarantino 10y ago
I am in the same boat as you. I use a package forwarding because the customs in my country are a nightmare, so the company takes care of them. Also, I bought books in quantity so it is cheaper to use free shipping in US and then pay for weight. By the way, I never had a problem and never a seller put a complain on this.
michaelmrose 10y ago
You might be an awesome person and well worth doing business with but the entire class of people you belong to might still be a bad risk.
- xor1 10y ago
  This kind of thinking is the reason I have so many rental applications despite having 3+ years at a great job, excellent credit, and references :(
  - michaelmrose 10y ago
    I'm sorry to hear that it's unfortunate. When prejudgment is based on race, gender etc it sucks but there are legal resources. In fact we make prejudgments all the time based on all kind of factors fair and unfair and we don't always have any recourse except to keep trying.
- willhslade 10y ago
  Canada says hello.

mperham 10y ago

For every one of you, there's a dozen scammers.

Dylan16807 10y ago
Then say 90%
- ohyoutravel 10y ago
  As long as we're being pedantic, it's way more than 90%.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    The difference between it being certainly a scam vs. not certainly a scam is much more than a pedantic nitpick.
    - tempestn 10y ago
      Yes, but if you charitably take the point as being that sellers should assume it is certainly a scam, then it holds.
      - Dylan16807 10y ago
        But it needs an addendum that that might be a real customer and you should ideally have some way to purchase with additional verification, not just cutting them off and thinking no more of it because who cares about scammers.
lisivka 10y ago
„Scammer“ will pay for mailing to Package Forwarding Service + mailing to his country and PFS fee + VAT + then mailing back to USA + money exchange fee at top of all that. About $200 in this case. Too much for a scam.

op00to 10y ago

For values as astonishingly small as the percentage of legitimate eBay shoppers using a Ukrainian package forwarding service, that works out to zero.

ars 10y ago

eBay does that as a service, it's not hard to ship to international sellers via eBay. So it's perfectly inline to refuse to ship to such address via eBay.

pmtarantino 10y ago

I am in the same boat as you. I use a package forwarding because the customs in my country are a nightmare, so the company takes care of them. Also, I bought books in quantity so it is cheaper to use free shipping in US and then pay for weight. By the way, I never had a problem and never a seller put a complain on this.

michaelmrose 10y ago

You might be an awesome person and well worth doing business with but the entire class of people you belong to might still be a bad risk.

xor1 10y ago
This kind of thinking is the reason I have so many rental applications despite having 3+ years at a great job, excellent credit, and references :(
- michaelmrose 10y ago
  I'm sorry to hear that it's unfortunate. When prejudgment is based on race, gender etc it sucks but there are legal resources. In fact we make prejudgments all the time based on all kind of factors fair and unfair and we don't always have any recourse except to keep trying.
willhslade 10y ago
Canada says hello.