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I left Windows 10 months ago because they have real show stoppers that shouldn't exist. In my case, my network interfaces vanished and couldn't be reinstalled

by AmVess 10y ago

I left Windows 10 months ago because they have real show stoppers that shouldn't exist. In my case, my network interfaces vanished and couldn't be reinstalled or restored. A PC is not much more than a fancy lump of coal without networking, so it was the final straw. How they continue to screw up relatively simple things is beyond me. I'm just glad that Microsoft doesn't make aircraft or automobiles.

mtgx 10y ago
> I'm just glad that Microsoft doesn't make aircraft or automobiles. Yeah, about that... > Microsoft is open to partners requesting an operating system for cars, and Johnson specifically cites examples of being able to work in self-driving cars eventually. http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/3/11850214/microsoft-self-driving-car-software http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/3/11850214/microsoft-self-dri...
- shakna 10y ago
  Oh no, a young child! Press the brake! > WinCar Updating... Restarting...
  - cmdrfred 10y ago
    I think Microsoft's new model is: ”I noticed you were trying to apply the break, watch this ad for for break tokens or pay 9.99 for 10!” http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-windows-10-pushes-ads-at-you-and-how-to-stop-them.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-window...
    - mtgx 10y ago
      Sounds like ransomware.
pdimitar 10y ago
In a firm with 80+ employees only one guy with an ancient PCI Ethernet card had problems after upgrading to Windows 10 and his drivers were fixed a week later. So I don't know what you're talking about. Poke around in the internet. Outliers like you always exist but you're the exception, not the rule.
- bluecalm 10y ago
  If you actually go poke around the Internet you will see that people have tons of problems with Windows 10 drivers. Three examples I and people I know encountered: 1)crashing SSD drivers (the "fix" for that is to disable some power management settings for an SSD "sleep mode" which are not visible by default so you need some registry poking) 2)problems with wireless modems (in Thinkpads, fix is to disable and enable the device from time to time, of course it says the device is working correctly all the time which doesn't help) 3)crashes after updating from Windows 7, apparently some permissions don't update correctly and part of the system assumes it should have some permissions but it doesn't and the system crash (fix for that is apparently doing a clean install), this is bad because it doesn't even write anything to event log for some time before the crash You can easily find tons of people talking about those problems if you google. That are only driver/system problems, there is also huge mess with forced updates which you don't have enough control over. For example if Windows 10 decides to update you can't shut down the system anymore so if you need the computer now and it freezes you need to wait till updates complete (it's easy to imagine how it's not acceptable when you want to do a presentation, a quick fix or react to something before leaving home). Windows is 10 is huge mess and people having problems with it are definitely not outliers.
  - ams6110 10y ago
    And you definitely do not want the average consumer user trying to download drivers because they will inevitably find them on some shady downloadz site and end up ransomed or worse.
  - Thimothy 10y ago
    If you poke the internet, you will find people having tons of problems with virtually EVERYTHING, hell, I'd bet that one of the bigger uses of the internet is searching for every kind of solutions. The notion that the number one OS used by non-technically minded people, the OS that supports the greatest amount of HW, has the loudest crowd of people looking for help is perfectly understandable and doesn't signal anything by itself. Mayor OS upgrades are painful, no matter the flavor, and it totally looks like Microsoft has made some mayor blunders with this one, but if I wanted to know whether this one is specially abominable, I'd probably pay more attention to what sysadmins have to say about it, and not some randos in the internet.
woliveirajr 10y ago
As a first step, we recommend customers restart their cars. If this does not resolve the problem, drain out all the batteries and then charge your car again. And, finally, visit our website for further support.

by AmVess 10y ago

mtgx 10y ago

> I'm just glad that Microsoft doesn't make aircraft or automobiles. Yeah, about that... > Microsoft is open to partners requesting an operating system for cars, and Johnson specifically cites examples of being able to work in self-driving cars eventually. http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/3/11850214/microsoft-self-driving-car-software http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/3/11850214/microsoft-self-dri...

shakna 10y ago
Oh no, a young child! Press the brake! > WinCar Updating... Restarting...
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  I think Microsoft's new model is: ”I noticed you were trying to apply the break, watch this ad for for break tokens or pay 9.99 for 10!” http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-windows-10-pushes-ads-at-you-and-how-to-stop-them.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039827/windows/7-ways-window...
  - mtgx 10y ago
    Sounds like ransomware.

pdimitar 10y ago

In a firm with 80+ employees only one guy with an ancient PCI Ethernet card had problems after upgrading to Windows 10 and his drivers were fixed a week later. So I don't know what you're talking about. Poke around in the internet. Outliers like you always exist but you're the exception, not the rule.

bluecalm 10y ago
If you actually go poke around the Internet you will see that people have tons of problems with Windows 10 drivers. Three examples I and people I know encountered: 1)crashing SSD drivers (the "fix" for that is to disable some power management settings for an SSD "sleep mode" which are not visible by default so you need some registry poking) 2)problems with wireless modems (in Thinkpads, fix is to disable and enable the device from time to time, of course it says the device is working correctly all the time which doesn't help) 3)crashes after updating from Windows 7, apparently some permissions don't update correctly and part of the system assumes it should have some permissions but it doesn't and the system crash (fix for that is apparently doing a clean install), this is bad because it doesn't even write anything to event log for some time before the crash You can easily find tons of people talking about those problems if you google. That are only driver/system problems, there is also huge mess with forced updates which you don't have enough control over. For example if Windows 10 decides to update you can't shut down the system anymore so if you need the computer now and it freezes you need to wait till updates complete (it's easy to imagine how it's not acceptable when you want to do a presentation, a quick fix or react to something before leaving home). Windows is 10 is huge mess and people having problems with it are definitely not outliers.
- ams6110 10y ago
  And you definitely do not want the average consumer user trying to download drivers because they will inevitably find them on some shady downloadz site and end up ransomed or worse.
- Thimothy 10y ago
  If you poke the internet, you will find people having tons of problems with virtually EVERYTHING, hell, I'd bet that one of the bigger uses of the internet is searching for every kind of solutions. The notion that the number one OS used by non-technically minded people, the OS that supports the greatest amount of HW, has the loudest crowd of people looking for help is perfectly understandable and doesn't signal anything by itself. Mayor OS upgrades are painful, no matter the flavor, and it totally looks like Microsoft has made some mayor blunders with this one, but if I wanted to know whether this one is specially abominable, I'd probably pay more attention to what sysadmins have to say about it, and not some randos in the internet.

woliveirajr 10y ago

As a first step, we recommend customers restart their cars. If this does not resolve the problem, drain out all the batteries and then charge your car again. And, finally, visit our website for further support.