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> "Some customers using Windows 10 have reported difficulties connecting to the internet," said a spokeswoman for Microsoft. "As a first step, we recommend cus
by rcaught 10y ago
> "Some customers using Windows 10 have reported difficulties connecting to the internet," said a spokeswoman for Microsoft.
"As a first step, we recommend customers restart their PCs.
If this does not resolve the problem, visit our website for further support."
The timeless, "please visit our website if your Internet is not working" trick.
- Aaargh20318 10y agoWell, if it's only the Windows 10 machines having issues you can still visit the website on your MacBook, iMac, iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch.
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- cuu508 10y agoThere's also the good old "Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue" BIOS message.
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- chipperyman573 10y agoThis used to be a thing for a reason http://alphahole.net/?p=1011 http://alphahole.net/?p=1011 (But yes now it's basically useless)
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- CamperBob2 10y agoThe reason they cite isn't valid, for reasons explained in the comments. The reason the BIOS stops and says "Keyboard not found, press F1 to continue" is to give you a chance to plug in the missing keyboard, so that it can be initialized and supported by the BIOS before continuing to boot.
- AstralStorm 10y agoAny mainboard worth money has a way to skip this check in settings.
- CamperBob2 10y agoYep. This is feasible because modern OSes don't rely on BIOS to the same extent that DOS did.
- qb45 10y agoNot sure, this seems to encourage hotplugging which can damage AT and PS/2 keyboards or motherboards. I think the real reason was: if (err) { puts(strerror(err)); puts("Press F1 to continue"); }
- breakingcups 10y agoThe writer of that article is very wrongly informed.
- qb45 10y agoYou are being generous, the article is complete bullshit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A20_line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A20_line And, of course, as pointed by sibling poster, the i8042 is on the motherboard, not in the keyboard.
- geocar 10y agoNo, it never did. The 8042 isn't inside the keyboard but on the motherboard, and the status register inp(100)&2 is clear even when there isn't a keyboard attached. The way the BIOS detects a keyboard is by sending a command from the 8042 to the keyboard (usually 255; reset and do basic test) and waiting a few seconds for the ACK. Users often used the keyboard in those days and might want to know that the keyboard itself wasn't plugged in or working before booting up the computer because the keyboard lines (while often robust) didn't actually support hotplug and plugging in a keyboard while the controller was trying to talk to it could actually damage the computer. Meanwhile some other people used PC hardware as something other than a PC, and in those cases might not want a keyboard attached that can get damaged, so most BIOS actually let you disable the keyboard startup test.
- snowpanda 10y agoGood thing I keep a local copy of the internet on my western digital.
- NetStrikeForce 10y agoOverkill. I've got it in a floppy. A friend gave it to me 10 years ago.
- FLUX-YOU 10y agoThat's a hell of a Weissman score
- Amygaz 10y agoHey! I was cleaning up stuff in my basement last weekend and found a 3.5" floppy disk, and I was wondering what was on it. Now I remember! Thanks.
- retro64 10y agoNo joke, I have a printed book somewhere that lists out the entire World Wide Web, and it is actually quite thin. Of course it was published in 1995. (I will have to verify the date)
- retro64 10y agoAnd here is the book. First edition published in 1992: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565920637.do#top http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565920637.do#top
- iagooar 10y agoBecause, you know, nowadays nobody has a smartphone or any other devices capable of browsing the web besides their PC...
- vt240 10y agoI am one of those people who does not have a smartphone and tablet. It is very frustrating as ISPs move to that assumption, but I understand I am in the minority.
- macspoofing 10y agoYep. The world is rushing past you.
- dspillett 10y agoMany people still don't have smartphones/tablets, it might not be that convenient to use the support site on a small smartphone, if your tablet runs Windows 10 also (as MS would like it to) it could be in the same state, ...
- iagooar 10y agoYep, in that case, you need to call over a friend with one, there is a 99% chance he or she will have one.
- dspillett 10y agoBecause everyone has a friend who can drop what they are doing and come round right now to help them diagnose a problem with their PC so you can get on with your urgent work. I'm starting to think that MS secretly wants desktop Windows to die so they can concentrate on server-land OS roles (especially Azure based), Office, and SQL Server. Once their dev tools and office are cross-platform and/or web-based (they seem to be moving that way) they can push people onto Linux/Mac/Other on the desktop and let someone else worry about the intractable problem of maintaining the security of the desktop/tablet OS installs of the filthy masses...
- dewiz 10y ago++ "Click here if you can't read this email"
- Normal_gaussian 10y agoWhich makes complete sense. Many email readers decide to screw up the formatting of perfectly good emails, and many email providers (notably company mail) decide to mess with the content, thankfully the "click here" statement is nearly always left perfectly usable. Of course designing a marketing mail such that it doesn't fall afoul of those intrusions is a much better idea.
- cesarb 10y agoThe only times I've seen "Click here if you can't read this email" in an email is when the email is image-only, and the images are being loaded from the web (which my email reader rightly blocks), instead of being embedded in the email. When an email is composed of text, instead of images, there is never a problem.
- GrinningFool 10y ago> Many email readers decide to screw up the formatting of perfectly good emails I've never had a reader screw up the formatting of a plain text email, nor have I had to click on any links to correctly read the full text of those emails. Edit: I wanted to add to this that I generally don't unsubscribe from emails that arise from existing relations (signed up for site, etc) as long as they include a "text/plain" part with the message content.
- Normal_gaussian 10y ago> of a plain text email Which is unsurprising. However that is not the world most people live in.
- GrinningFool 10y agoTrue. And probably never will again - but if people like me stop saying things about it, then even multipart with text/plain goes away... then I'm left getting only whitelisted emails because I'll bounce everything else. Wait, maybe that's not such a bad world to live in after all...
- dewiz 10y ago++ "Click here if you can't read this email"
- wfunction 10y agoPresumably they are reading this sentence somehow, so they could look at the website the same way.
- Kurtz79 10y agoIt would have been ironic 10 years ago, but not today. If someone only has a single Internet-capable device, it is much more likely to be smartphone, rather than a PC running Windows. Of course it wouldn't have hurt to add: "or call our support number". It is funnier to me the "we recommend customers restart their PC" bit , which basically it's the first step every IT support ever tells you to do (possibly after "check that the cable is connected").
- nl 10y agoNo one who ever has done serious IT support should ever tell you to "check the cable is connected". The proper approach there is tell the person "please unplug the device from the power, wait 10 seconds then plug it back in to let the capacitors discharge". If you tell people "check the cable is plugged in" they will either tell you "yes of course it is" or else get offended. Telling them to unplug it and plug it back in solves that (and actually might help occasionally too).
- Waterluvian 10y agoAlso never ask if the CPU is properly seated. Just ask them to unseat and reseat it.
- vdnkh 10y agoCatch-22!