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The american administration is bad too for foreigners, so I think it can be summarized by how attractive the country is.
by louhike 10y ago
The american administration is bad too for foreigners, so I think it can be summarized by how attractive the country is.
- duaneb 10y agoYou mean how the child of an immigrant is President?
- Jtsummers 10y agoUS immigration goes beyond just the President's personal views and desires. The present situation is pretty difficult for many would-be immigrants, even those from middle class backgrounds in stable countries. If they lack a degree or their degree isn't recognized, they can't easily get a work visa (for permanent resident status, not temporary workers). They have to get married, go for the diversity visa program, or become a student (may be their second or third degree for some if they go this route).
- duaneb 10y agoThis is true. But compare it to other countries: even where immigration is more relaxed, the cultural acceptance of foreign culture is greater in the US than most places. The only place I might prefer to be as a foreigner would be Canada.
- cylinder 10y agoHis father was not an immigrant, he was born in Queens. And the immigration laws are a much bigger obstacle now than they were even in the 80s.
- duaneb 10y agoI was referring to Obama Sr, who was born in Kenya.
- jameshart 10y agoWeird correction. Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, mother to Donald, was born on the Isle of Lewis in Scotland in 1912, emigrated to the US in 1930, married an American in 1936, naturalized 1942.
- duaneb 10y agoGreat find; I never would have realized this otherwise. Ironically this is more accurate than my statement about the current president!
- falsestprophet 10y agoYou mean how the child of an immigrant is President? The president's father was never an immigrant. An immigrant is someone who comes to life permanently in a new country. He was a foreign student with a wife in Kenya and eventually returned to Kenya with an American third wife upon the completion of his studies. Several presidents have been a child of an immigrant: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover.
- duaneb 10y agoCorrect; my apologies.
- seanmcdirmid 10y agoAn H1B doesn't have to reapply for a work visa every year, and they eventually get a green card, while green cards are extremely rare in China. Also, you don't have to re-register at the PSB in the states a few times a year, waiting in line just to get a little slip of paper. It is easy to get a working visa in tech, that's for sure, and if you have a company that jumps through all the hoops for you, it can be relatively painless.
- snambi 10y agoI'm an indian immigrant, this is totally not true. There may be edge cases, but in general, cannot agree with this statement.
- serge2k 10y agowhat? The american immigration system is pretty awful. H-1B to employer sponsored green card is a really lousy system.
- xiaoma 10y agoTry immigrating to China.
- jensvdh 10y agoI'm not familiar with China's system. But let's not pretend a lottery based system, where the only thing that decides whether you can stay in the country or not, is random number generation, like H1-B is great.
- wmil 10y agoChina's system is basically just "No, you can't stay". As of 2010 exactly 1,448 living immigrants had managed to become citizens. In contrast, the US naturalizes 700,000 every year. The country actually has more billionaires than non-Vietnamese refugees.
- lacampbell 10y agoRight. China is in the business of colonising other countries - not being colonised itself.