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I find that console apps are far less intuitive when it comes to visual thinkers. I also am not too keen on modal editing, it doesn't match how I do most things

I find that console apps are far less intuitive when it comes to visual thinkers. I also am not too keen on modal editing, it doesn't match how I do most things in life. I don't have to switch out my teeth when eating vs drinking. It just doesn't seem natural to me. I've always found I'm more productive with a GUI. Command line is great for simple tasks and executing commands, but editing files has always seemed less than ideal. You have to remember so many key combinations and commands and track what mode you are in and what modes are available. I would rather spend that brain power on solving problems.

throwayawnotime 10y ago
what is a visual thinker?
- oblio 10y ago
  90% of the world and 15% of HackerNews. Jokes aside, do you understand the architecture of a system better from a diagram than from a 2 page description?
falcolas 10y ago
> I don't have to switch out my teeth when eating vs drinking. But you do switch how your mouth is working when switching between eating and drinking. In one, you masticate and move food around your mouth before swallowing once (maybe twice), whereas the other involves directing fluids back to your throat which acts in a near-continuous swallowing action. > You have to remember so many key combinations and commands They become muscle memory after an admittedly non-trivial amount of use. Yes, it is an investment in your future usage of that tool. And to be fair, you had to memorize C-x, C-c, and C-v at one point too.
- oblio 10y ago
  He doesn't control his mouth when switching between eating and breathing, I'm pretty sure that it's part of the autonomic system. You kind of made his point since there's no way Vim actions actually become fully reflex actions, especially the powerful stuff that separates Vim from a good IDE, since the vast majority of those really complex actions will be done at best dozens of times per day (and I'm being generous here).
  - abeyer 10y ago
    > there's no way Vim actions actually become fully reflex actions You might be surprised. Maybe not quite the level of a true "reflex", but it can get close. I find I not infrequently get weird compile/test/spellcheck errors when I'm not using vim and go back to find a string of vi keystrokes in the middle of my document that I typed without consciously realizing.

throwayawnotime 10y ago

what is a visual thinker?

oblio 10y ago
90% of the world and 15% of HackerNews. Jokes aside, do you understand the architecture of a system better from a diagram than from a 2 page description?

falcolas 10y ago

> I don't have to switch out my teeth when eating vs drinking. But you do switch how your mouth is working when switching between eating and drinking. In one, you masticate and move food around your mouth before swallowing once (maybe twice), whereas the other involves directing fluids back to your throat which acts in a near-continuous swallowing action. > You have to remember so many key combinations and commands They become muscle memory after an admittedly non-trivial amount of use. Yes, it is an investment in your future usage of that tool. And to be fair, you had to memorize C-x, C-c, and C-v at one point too.

oblio 10y ago
He doesn't control his mouth when switching between eating and breathing, I'm pretty sure that it's part of the autonomic system. You kind of made his point since there's no way Vim actions actually become fully reflex actions, especially the powerful stuff that separates Vim from a good IDE, since the vast majority of those really complex actions will be done at best dozens of times per day (and I'm being generous here).
- abeyer 10y ago
  > there's no way Vim actions actually become fully reflex actions You might be surprised. Maybe not quite the level of a true "reflex", but it can get close. I find I not infrequently get weird compile/test/spellcheck errors when I'm not using vim and go back to find a string of vi keystrokes in the middle of my document that I typed without consciously realizing.