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On kind of a related note, I've recently read "Surely you're joking mr. Feynman" it's a funny and engaging book. It's really amazing what he was able to learn.

• jayajay 10y ago
  That book was so funny. My favorite is the story where he finds out he can get the radio broadcast an hour early, and so he uses that to troll his relatives into thinking he can predict the outcome. I forget exactly what it was -- a sports game, or something. There was also an interesting one about how he and some of the other physicists tracked the passage of time differently. Like one guy would imagine a little clock ticking, and could parallel process, whereas Feynman would say the seconds in his head, so he was fucked if he tried to do other shit at the same time.
  • kevinwang 10y ago
    Yeah, if I recall correctly, he concluded that those who thought visually about the time could do other auditory tasks in parallel, but not visual tasks. The opposite was true for those who thought audio-ly about time.
• wallace_f 10y ago
  I quite enjoyed that book, it's one of my favourites, actually. One part that caught me by surprise was Feynman's praise for the quick decision to use the atomic bomb. That stood out as something in apparent disagreement with the character of his which I learned of, and I didn't know what it was about that that he respected.
  • zeroer 10y ago
    It's been a long time since I've read it, but I'm guessing the saving lives part of dropping the bomb. Also, they didn't have the norm of a 70 year history of not nuking other countries over disagreements, and had been in a brutal war for years, so they probably though differently about the use of nukes.
    • wallace_f 10y ago
      > It's been a long time since I've read it, but I'm guessing the saving lives part of dropping the bomb. I wasn't baiting an argument about the bombs, but I just don't want to let it slide by. That is with almost certainty a false claim. I know we don't admit in America that we are capable of producing and consuming propaganda, so it's exceptionally difficult to communicate that idea despite what facts & what leadership at the time said that is in the historical record. Something swept under the rug was that there were many senior military leaders who pleaded to not use the bombs on urban, civilian population centers, at the very least. Also contrary to popular belief, the Japanese leadership was actually desperately looking to find a way out of the war. It was over by that point. Hirohito had no way for his empire to survive, and he selfishly did not want to relinquish his role as emperor (he otherwise offered to surrender if he could). Feynman wasn't a military general at the time and he likely had no way or time available of knowing the full consequences of use of the bomb. My high school history textbook told me that the bombs saved lives. President Eisenhower said there was no reason to drop them. There are two sides to that story.
  • abecedarius 10y ago
    Did he praise that decision? I don't remember that, and I do remember him praising the one guy who quit after Germany surrendered -- Feynman said roughly that the rest of them, including himself, kept working without reflecting that their original motive was gone, and that was a mistake.
    • wallace_f 10y ago
      > Did he praise that decision? That's the way I remember it, and that's what I thought was so surprising. I remember him saying something close to 'you have all these people's lives on the line and are able to make that decision,' and respecting that ability to make that decision
      • abecedarius 10y ago
        Hmmm, I remember a passage sort of like that: he'd been sent to consult on safety arrangements at Oak Ridge, and concluded that it just couldn't work unless workers there knew something of the nature of the dangerous radioactive materials they were processing. He escalated to a general or some other high military figure, who listened, thought for a couple minutes, and decided right there to do what Feynman recommended. Feynman at the time was a twentysomething just out of grad school, and Oak Ridge was already a big deal. Does that ring more of a bell? Maybe it's my memory instead, though I've read this book a few times now.
        • wallace_f 10y ago
          It was specifically about dropping the bombs. I wish I had the book and I could look it up. He said something like 'you had all these lives on the line' and how he respected it was a hard decision to make to drop them.
          • abecedarius 10y ago
            OK, thanks -- I'll try to remember this if I dip into it again.
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• sextus_prop 10y ago
  Yes, a really cool book that I enjoyed with a good laugh. There is also a somewhat sequel that I'm hoping to read someday "What Do You Care What Other People Think?"