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I have no idea how this made front-page. The title is inconsistent with the article title, and even the article title seems inflated to what it describes. As

I have no idea how this made front-page. The title is inconsistent with the article title, and even the article title seems inflated to what it describes. As I understand it, the experimental group played a game they couldn't lose (rigged) and adults gave them "hints." The kids [correctly] identified that they weren't dependent on the adults' help in that group. However, there doesn't even seem to be a link to the actual study anywhere, so I can't even check what this research actually is.

dang 10y ago
If you or anyone can suggest a better (i.e. more accurate and neutral title), we can change it. The HN guidelines call for changing titles when they are either linkbait or misleading (and that's not an xor). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- throwaway729 10y ago
  Both the subtitle of the linked article and the published journal article's main title are: "Success inhibits preschoolers’ ability to establish selective trust". The "establish selective trust" phrase is much more accurate than just "trust" -- in fact, the current title on HN in strictly incorrect. The preschoolers don't have problems trusting. Rather, you could argue that they're more trustworthy when they never lose. It's the "selective" part that's important. (That said, this feels a bit pedantic to me, and it seems as if no one is confused by the difference in wording.) The "Let your kids lose:" prefix on the SD headline (and not in the peer reviewed publication) could cut either way -- it might be link bait, but it's also not inconsistent with the researchers' advice.
  - dang 10y ago
    Ok, we put 'selective' in the title. Thanks!
bzbarsky 10y ago
Study link is at the bottom of the article; it just manages to look like an ad a bit, so easy to miss. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096516301035 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096516...
sitkack 10y ago
There is a DOI at the bottom of the page.
unhammer 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147440

dang 10y ago

If you or anyone can suggest a better (i.e. more accurate and neutral title), we can change it. The HN guidelines call for changing titles when they are either linkbait or misleading (and that's not an xor). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

throwaway729 10y ago
Both the subtitle of the linked article and the published journal article's main title are: "Success inhibits preschoolers’ ability to establish selective trust". The "establish selective trust" phrase is much more accurate than just "trust" -- in fact, the current title on HN in strictly incorrect. The preschoolers don't have problems trusting. Rather, you could argue that they're more trustworthy when they never lose. It's the "selective" part that's important. (That said, this feels a bit pedantic to me, and it seems as if no one is confused by the difference in wording.) The "Let your kids lose:" prefix on the SD headline (and not in the peer reviewed publication) could cut either way -- it might be link bait, but it's also not inconsistent with the researchers' advice.
- dang 10y ago
  Ok, we put 'selective' in the title. Thanks!

bzbarsky 10y ago

Study link is at the bottom of the article; it just manages to look like an ad a bit, so easy to miss. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096516301035 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022096516...

sitkack 10y ago

There is a DOI at the bottom of the page.

unhammer 10y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13147440