At least in my neighborhood the entire idea of turf is questionable. The sets are small & the alliances so quickly rotated through that you just don't see large

At least in my neighborhood the entire idea of turf is questionable. The sets are small & the alliances so quickly rotated through that you just don't see large scale, long term turf holding. Anecdotally this seemed to happen in the summer/fall of 2007. So it's not new.