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If these allegations are proven and those responsible for these policies don't spend significant time in prison then we can no longer deny that we live in a cor

If these allegations are proven and those responsible for these policies don't spend significant time in prison then we can no longer deny that we live in a corrupt society.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
I mean, this sounds a lot like criminal kidnapping.
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  If abducting someone for profit isn't kidnapping then I don't know what is.
- gumby 10y ago
  And indeed she reached a settlement with the company which presumably means they were worried about losing a lawsuit or worse.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    Why weren't criminal charges pressed? Why is nobody in jail? Holding people hostage is definitely illegal.
    - gumby 10y ago
      Because in the US (at least) if the victim won't press charges the police can't take action. And in a case like this the defence will attempt to attack the (alleged, at the time of the trial) victim's credibility, which can be devastating. It's the main reason why rapists so often get away with it. Also why gang members are hard to convict. Some crimes don't have a legal victim, e.g. murder (victim is dead) or so-called "victimless" crimes (prostitution, drug possession, speeding, etc).
      - cmdrfred 10y ago
        Kidnapping in the the latter category it does not require anyone to press charges. Assault is the same way as well. If LE has evidence they can move on it. The fact of the matter is prosecutors don't want to risk their win loss ratio.
      - mikeash 10y ago
        That's not true. The decision about whether to press charges is up to the prosecutor. The prosecutor will often take the victim's wishes into account when deciding what to do, but they aren't required to.
      - nommm-nommm 10y ago
        This is not true. The only person with the choice/authority to prosecute is the prosecutor.
        Spooky23 10y ago
        Prosecutors want trophys. If a victim won't testify, unless there is alt of other evidence, good luck getting a conviction.
    - icantdrive55 10y ago
      And out of all medical patients; Psychiatriatric patients are the least vocal/proactive. Most are just trying to make it through the day. Or, that's what a Psychiatrist once told me. Taking advantage of patients is not uncommon. I see Psychiatrists/Psychologists abuse their position in society for wealth. It's an art afterall too. My opinion of the speciality couldn't be lower. These are just my opinions from being around the system for decades, from Psychologists to Psychiatrists. I'm sure there are good/ethical/moral health professionals out there. So save any santimonious speech. These are just my antidotal observations.
- Avshalom 10y ago
  So I mean this is all super fucked up but: http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.40&full=true http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.40&full=true I suspect If I kept google-ing danger to self or others gives institutions authority to restrain.
- scythe 10y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
bitJericho 10y ago
Feel free to think otherwise, but we are living in a corrupt society. This isn't any news to anybody except those with no experience with any part of the government system.
GrinningFool 10y ago
> then we can no longer deny that we live in a corrupt society I've not heard anyone denying this. The only thing people like to debate is which aspect - as if it were a binary choice.

If these allegations are proven and those responsible for these policies don't spend significant time in prison then we can no longer deny that we live in a corrupt society.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

I mean, this sounds a lot like criminal kidnapping.

cmdrfred 10y ago
If abducting someone for profit isn't kidnapping then I don't know what is.
gumby 10y ago
And indeed she reached a settlement with the company which presumably means they were worried about losing a lawsuit or worse.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  Why weren't criminal charges pressed? Why is nobody in jail? Holding people hostage is definitely illegal.
  - gumby 10y ago
    Because in the US (at least) if the victim won't press charges the police can't take action. And in a case like this the defence will attempt to attack the (alleged, at the time of the trial) victim's credibility, which can be devastating. It's the main reason why rapists so often get away with it. Also why gang members are hard to convict. Some crimes don't have a legal victim, e.g. murder (victim is dead) or so-called "victimless" crimes (prostitution, drug possession, speeding, etc).
    - cmdrfred 10y ago
      Kidnapping in the the latter category it does not require anyone to press charges. Assault is the same way as well. If LE has evidence they can move on it. The fact of the matter is prosecutors don't want to risk their win loss ratio.
    - mikeash 10y ago
      That's not true. The decision about whether to press charges is up to the prosecutor. The prosecutor will often take the victim's wishes into account when deciding what to do, but they aren't required to.
    - nommm-nommm 10y ago
      This is not true. The only person with the choice/authority to prosecute is the prosecutor.
      - Spooky23 10y ago
        Prosecutors want trophys. If a victim won't testify, unless there is alt of other evidence, good luck getting a conviction.
  - icantdrive55 10y ago
    And out of all medical patients; Psychiatriatric patients are the least vocal/proactive. Most are just trying to make it through the day. Or, that's what a Psychiatrist once told me. Taking advantage of patients is not uncommon. I see Psychiatrists/Psychologists abuse their position in society for wealth. It's an art afterall too. My opinion of the speciality couldn't be lower. These are just my opinions from being around the system for decades, from Psychologists to Psychiatrists. I'm sure there are good/ethical/moral health professionals out there. So save any santimonious speech. These are just my antidotal observations.
Avshalom 10y ago
So I mean this is all super fucked up but: http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.40&full=true http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.40&full=true I suspect If I kept google-ing danger to self or others gives institutions authority to restrain.
scythe 10y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

bitJericho 10y ago

Feel free to think otherwise, but we are living in a corrupt society. This isn't any news to anybody except those with no experience with any part of the government system.

GrinningFool 10y ago

> then we can no longer deny that we live in a corrupt society I've not heard anyone denying this. The only thing people like to debate is which aspect - as if it were a binary choice.