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I do not support this happening within the current capitalist system. It will lead to even more exploitation of workers, especially in countries with labour law

by ue_ 10y ago

I do not support this happening within the current capitalist system. It will lead to even more exploitation of workers, especially in countries with labour laws that aren't as strict. It favors workaholics over people with good balance. Some may regard this as a silly objection, but arguably worker exploitation is the largest problem, with the exception of climate change, in the world today. It is important to consider social effects.

kahrkunne 10y ago
Woah calm down there Karl, I'm pretty sure we have a ban on politics here this month.
- dang 10y ago
  Not a month—originally a week, but we ended it early: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251 While I have you, though, please don't post things like "Whoa calm down there Karl". That's patronizing and uncivil, and primes the other person to react negatively. Instead, please post civilly and substantively. Your comment would be fine without the first sentence (along with an s/month/week/ of course).
  - kahrkunne 10y ago
    Alright, duly noted. Still coming to terms with what HN considers "civil" (the way it's described in the rules definitely doesn't help, and is actually harmful to understanding what HN considers "civil", IMO)
    - dang 10y ago
      I understand the desire for precise definitions, but this is not an area that admits of one. To propose one would certainly trigger an avalanche of objections and nitpicking, and even if we got it right I'm doubtful that many people would take it in. It doesn't seem to work to control a large community that way. What does seem to work is a body of case by case practice.
SamBam 10y ago
Honestly, that's a good worry to have. But I don't think that kind of consideration will (or should) ever stop basic science research. We might have well have told everyone not to research computer science and robotics, because of all the jobs that automation has removed. Instead, it's up to the politicians and regulators (unfortunately) to prevent exploitation.

by ue_ 10y ago

kahrkunne 10y ago

Woah calm down there Karl, I'm pretty sure we have a ban on politics here this month.

dang 10y ago
Not a month—originally a week, but we ended it early: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13133855 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13131251 While I have you, though, please don't post things like "Whoa calm down there Karl". That's patronizing and uncivil, and primes the other person to react negatively. Instead, please post civilly and substantively. Your comment would be fine without the first sentence (along with an s/month/week/ of course).
- kahrkunne 10y ago
  Alright, duly noted. Still coming to terms with what HN considers "civil" (the way it's described in the rules definitely doesn't help, and is actually harmful to understanding what HN considers "civil", IMO)
  - dang 10y ago
    I understand the desire for precise definitions, but this is not an area that admits of one. To propose one would certainly trigger an avalanche of objections and nitpicking, and even if we got it right I'm doubtful that many people would take it in. It doesn't seem to work to control a large community that way. What does seem to work is a body of case by case practice.

SamBam 10y ago

Honestly, that's a good worry to have. But I don't think that kind of consideration will (or should) ever stop basic science research. We might have well have told everyone not to research computer science and robotics, because of all the jobs that automation has removed. Instead, it's up to the politicians and regulators (unfortunately) to prevent exploitation.