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Okay, but why? No offense, but do we really need another FTP client in 2016?

andrewfromx 10y ago
a very very good point. I think the answer is art. People like to create art. It's just another painting but we already have other paintings. Well this is a new painting that might speak to people in a new way.
- mitchas 10y ago
  Basically. I get that there are several, but having just moved from developing on a mac to Windows, I didn't find one I liked. I just needed super basic - single pane. Also I wasn't a fan of how every client looked like they were straight from XP. I used this as a way to get familiar with Electron, as well. Lastly, it's open source so people can add whatever they want to it. I have a few ideas that I would love to be using myself (image previews, in-client file editing, etc), and I'm sure other people have their own features they'd want - and they can add them now.
  - jgalloway___ 10y ago
    I think it's awesome. Sure some people think creating an FTP client is like a hello world project but I appreciate what you have done for the reasons you have stated.
  - theandrewbailey 10y ago
    > Also I wasn't a fan of how every client looked like they were straight from XP. You keep repeating this line. If a FTP client has received heavy usage and development since the XP days, that's a good sign, I think. It proves that it is well used, tested, reliable, and capable. I'd much rather have a program with a passable UI that is lightweight and does everything I want, than one that has an unjustified resource usage to feature ratio.
    - mitchas 10y ago
      We have different thoughts then. Especially since I now use FTP so infrequently, I wanted something very minimal. There just weren't any clients like that - XP style definitely isn't clean/minimal. I don't care too much about being well used, tested, and reliable if I don't like it.
      - dkuntz2 10y ago
        I think your definition of minimal doesn't really match everyone else in this threads'. Opening up an entire chromium runtime just to manage FTP seems incredibly _not_ minimal to me. Filezilla, for it's somewhat outdated look and myriad of options is substantially more lightweight than anything that requires a whole web browser.
Zyst 10y ago
There's this phrase, right? "Don't reinvent the wheel". I think it's central to the development experience. Don't re-do work your ancestors have already done, lest you waste your time. I think there's a very valid exception -- well, there's many, but here's my favorite: "Don't reinvent the wheel unless you are trying to learn how the wheel works." See I like that phrase. Gives you a lot more creative license to just redo what has been made if you are curious about it. What if at the end of that learning experience you have a nice, fairly polished wheel and you'd like to share it? Maybe for e-cred, maybe for criticism, maybe just searching for praise. I'd say that the underlying motivation is irrelevant. We as a community should be less skeptical about this stuff, we really need to learn to just be happy for people, maybe even give out some praise. So on that note. Nice job OP! I really like the font choice, and colors. UI wise this might be the best FTP client I've seen.
- cweagans 10y ago
  I get doing something like this as a learning project. All I'm saying is that we should actively be trying to kill off FTP for good. There are superior protocols (and workflows for that matter). I will concede that it looks like a fantastic FTP client, but would you be excited about a dial up modem controller (no matter how nice it looked)? Or a really fancy cassette tape player? It's an interesting thought experiment to see what those technologies might look like if they were brought to market today, but it's very strange to want people to actually use them in my opinion.
quotha 10y ago
what is a good, free ftp client for mac os?
- jgalloway___ 10y ago
  Try FileZilla .. https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=osx https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=osx
- reaktivo 10y ago
  Try Cyberduck
- cweagans 10y ago
  Filezilla? Cyberduck? FTPFS? The FTP functionality that's built into Finder (or at least, it was the last time I used FTP - this was some time ago)? There's no shortage of clients. Personally, I think you shouldn't use FTP at all, but you do you.

a very very good point. I think the answer is art. People like to create art. It's just another painting but we already have other paintings. Well this is a new painting that might speak to people in a new way.

mitchas 10y ago
Basically. I get that there are several, but having just moved from developing on a mac to Windows, I didn't find one I liked. I just needed super basic - single pane. Also I wasn't a fan of how every client looked like they were straight from XP. I used this as a way to get familiar with Electron, as well. Lastly, it's open source so people can add whatever they want to it. I have a few ideas that I would love to be using myself (image previews, in-client file editing, etc), and I'm sure other people have their own features they'd want - and they can add them now.
- jgalloway___ 10y ago
  I think it's awesome. Sure some people think creating an FTP client is like a hello world project but I appreciate what you have done for the reasons you have stated.
- theandrewbailey 10y ago
  > Also I wasn't a fan of how every client looked like they were straight from XP. You keep repeating this line. If a FTP client has received heavy usage and development since the XP days, that's a good sign, I think. It proves that it is well used, tested, reliable, and capable. I'd much rather have a program with a passable UI that is lightweight and does everything I want, than one that has an unjustified resource usage to feature ratio.
  - mitchas 10y ago
    We have different thoughts then. Especially since I now use FTP so infrequently, I wanted something very minimal. There just weren't any clients like that - XP style definitely isn't clean/minimal. I don't care too much about being well used, tested, and reliable if I don't like it.
    - dkuntz2 10y ago
      I think your definition of minimal doesn't really match everyone else in this threads'. Opening up an entire chromium runtime just to manage FTP seems incredibly _not_ minimal to me. Filezilla, for it's somewhat outdated look and myriad of options is substantially more lightweight than anything that requires a whole web browser.

Zyst 10y ago

There's this phrase, right? "Don't reinvent the wheel". I think it's central to the development experience. Don't re-do work your ancestors have already done, lest you waste your time. I think there's a very valid exception -- well, there's many, but here's my favorite: "Don't reinvent the wheel unless you are trying to learn how the wheel works." See I like that phrase. Gives you a lot more creative license to just redo what has been made if you are curious about it. What if at the end of that learning experience you have a nice, fairly polished wheel and you'd like to share it? Maybe for e-cred, maybe for criticism, maybe just searching for praise. I'd say that the underlying motivation is irrelevant. We as a community should be less skeptical about this stuff, we really need to learn to just be happy for people, maybe even give out some praise. So on that note. Nice job OP! I really like the font choice, and colors. UI wise this might be the best FTP client I've seen.

cweagans 10y ago
I get doing something like this as a learning project. All I'm saying is that we should actively be trying to kill off FTP for good. There are superior protocols (and workflows for that matter). I will concede that it looks like a fantastic FTP client, but would you be excited about a dial up modem controller (no matter how nice it looked)? Or a really fancy cassette tape player? It's an interesting thought experiment to see what those technologies might look like if they were brought to market today, but it's very strange to want people to actually use them in my opinion.

quotha 10y ago

what is a good, free ftp client for mac os?

jgalloway___ 10y ago
Try FileZilla .. https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=osx https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=osx
reaktivo 10y ago
Try Cyberduck
cweagans 10y ago
Filezilla? Cyberduck? FTPFS? The FTP functionality that's built into Finder (or at least, it was the last time I used FTP - this was some time ago)? There's no shortage of clients. Personally, I think you shouldn't use FTP at all, but you do you.