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You should definitely boycott Nestle. They are for example aggressively pushing baby milk replacements for newborns in developing countries: more info here:http

You should definitely boycott Nestle. They are for example aggressively pushing baby milk replacements for newborns in developing countries: more info here:http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree#evidence http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree#evidence "Nestlé promotes its baby milk around the world with the claim such as it is the ‘natural start’, ‘gentle start’ and ‘protects’ babies. In truth, babies fed on formula are more likely to become sick than breastfed babies and, in conditions of poverty, more likely to die. Nestlé has promised to drop the ‘natural start’ claim by mid-2015 following pressure from the campaign, but not the others." Also, they have been calling for privatization and taking away water as a basic human right, instead wanting to sell people water in bottles. Here's a list of Nestle products to boycott: http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-boycott-list http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestle-boycott-list It contains some surprising ones, like San Pellegrino which is considered to be a high quality water.

nashashmi 10y ago
Poland Spring and Deer Park water are not on there. And obviously Nestle purelife water is not on there.
dexterdog 10y ago
I can follow that list no problem except for nespresso. The quality bang for the buck you get with those is so much better than the garbage that passes for coffee in a k-cup.
- kolbe 10y ago
  It is pretty hard to be moral when soooo much is at stake.
  - inDigiNeous 10y ago
    :D Yeah companies like these strive on the fact that they have the power to purchase many, many companies and conquer markets from many directions. Sadly for example the popular Finnish Penguin icecream was bought by Nestle, but they didn't of course change the name, so many people maybe still believe that it's still being owned by Finnish companies. The product didn't change, so that's good, but now the money is going to a multinational company instead of a local one. So yeah, it's kinda difficult to avoid all of these.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  No, it's not. If you actually do the math, the Nespresso coffee pods are so expensive per cup as compared to buying ground or whole espresso beans in tins, that a Nespresso machine with pods vs a proper Rancilio Silvia with Illy espresso breaks even in a little more than 12 months. Even though the Rancilio is $650+. Also, the Nespresso pods are pretty bad on the environment, since they're made from aluminium (energy intensive process) but can't be recycled since they're full of spent coffee.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    Most of what I'm paying for is the convenience. I have a machine in my office that I can hit a button on and get a shot out very quickly. I have a similar Jura machine at home that starts with beans and pulls a shot. The Nespresso shots are almost always better.
    - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
      Yeah, you don't want an "automatic" machine that does grinding, tamping and pulling the shot. It just doesn't work well, they don't make good espresso IMO. Even the ones I've used at various work locations, that cost thousands of dollars, are pretty bad. What you need is a manual (aka semi-automatic) machine, and a proper grinder (I have the Ascaso I2 and like it a lot) or even just pre-ground Illy, it's not that bad. Learning how to grind, tamp etc. takes about a month. From then it's pure espresso magic. For extra hipster points, buy a really manual machine, aka lever machine: https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/brands/la-pavoni https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/brands/la-pavoni
      - dexterdog 10y ago
        I have wanted to get one of those for the house, but as I said, in the office it's hard to beat a nespresso when the automatic alternative is keurig.
      - jacoblambda 10y ago
        the hipster points are irrelevant for the la pavoni, they are just straight up beautiful machines.
- rawfan 10y ago
  You COULD of course just get real coffee. You could buy the highest quality of coffee beans from a local roaster who imports the stuff himself from a farmer in Ethiopia and it would still be cheaper than Nespresso. It would be way tastier but you'd need to grind the coffee and use something like an AeroPress to make it.
  - llukas 10y ago
    Most of local roasters can grind coffee as well ;) I second AeroPress but also Hario V60 or other pour over methods are excellent.
    - herbst 10y ago
      You still would want to grind it at home. After grinding it starts loosing taste, not relevant how you package it except you make single use packages.
  - madeofpalk 10y ago
    AeroPress does not produce Espresso coffee, which the Nespresso machine does. You COULD grind your beans, brew the coffee yourself, clean up the mess you made and then clean the machine up. Or just pop a pod in and drink your coffee. I couldn't live without my Nespresso machine because it's an amazing compromise between ease of use, reliability and quality. It's 'good enough' compared to 'proper' coffee while being a million times easier and consistent.
- matwood 10y ago
  Buy a small grinder and 2-5 cup drip coffee maker. You'll get better tasting coffee, and it's much much cheaper. It literally takes 20 seconds to grind coffee beans, and it is the easiest/cheapest way to go from meh coffee to good coffee.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    That's not espresso
    - kolbe 10y ago
      the horror. the horror.
      - dexterdog 10y ago
        It's not a snob issue. It's just that if you prefer an espresso-based drink, that is what you prefer. If I preferred a drip-based drink I would have many cheaper options.
        kolbe 10y ago
        Then don't pretend you stand on any moral high ground if you cannot be bothered to endure the difference between espresso and drip to support a larger cause. Your original claim that you in some way support a boycott on Nestle is bullshit. You just coincidentally don't like their other products.
        dexterdog 10y ago
        No, I just coincidentally have an option on their other products. Nobody else makes a decent instant espresso option. Even the alternative pods that you can get for the nespresso machine are garbage as I have tried many of them.
        kolbe 10y ago
- pseud0r 10y ago
  Buy a grinder and an aeropress. It's a quick way to make coffee and it's way better than nespresso.
  - branchless 10y ago
    Agreed. Had the same aeropress for 4 years. Very easy to clean. The filters are very cheap, you'd normally expect to be gouged on these by some bean counter scumbag.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    I've done grind and aero. It's not espresso. It makes a good cup of regular coffee if that's what you're after, but if I'm going manual like that I prefer my french press.
- goseeastarwar 10y ago
  The coffee snobs (I say that with a lot of love) are out in full effect in your replies, but I'm with you. I did the whole Chemex, Aeropress, weight scale, burr grinder, Japanese tea kettle, etc etc and my Nespresso machine is by far and away the easiest way to get delicious coffee. My wife also adores their Aeroccino for perfect lattes every time. As far as recycling, Nespresso provides free, self-addressed bags that you drop in the mail with your spent pods and they handle it for you.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    I now they do that, but I figure the environmental footprint of that is probably much worse that peeling off the foil, dumping the coffee and recycling the aluminum is pretty high.
  - zizee 10y ago
    Correct me if I am wrong, but none of those other devices sound like an espresso machine, so to comparing the product produced by them with the product of a pod device produces is apples to oranges. Perhaps I am a bit particular, but I've never produced a coffee that I was happy with using non-espresso devices. Perhaps you are the same? Maybe you could give a proper espresso machine a go? That said, I have to say that I am surprised about the quality of the espresso shot produced by these pod devices, but I still think that you get a better result by grinding yourself with a half decent espresso machine, all without being so wasteful and being able to support local roasters. Once you take those positives, and your new found smugness/feeling of superiority the choice is easy! :-)
    - goseeastarwar 10y ago
      You're correct it's not a straight comparison, I was looking at it more from the generic "black liquid with caffeine" point of view. I've been lucky enough to use La Marzocco espresso machines at work for many years and they absolutely make better espresso than my Nespresso machine. The problem is that machine was $15k and my Nespresso was $100. I understand there are more consumer-grade espresso machines, but those still cost $1000+ and don't necessarily make espresso better than the Nespresso.
- herbst 10y ago
  I am 100% sure you never did the math. I worked for a small roaster in switzerland importing only organic coffee. Price per cup was about the half.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    What math? The math of nespresso vs k-cup? I know it's more expensive, but you can't do espresso with keurig. If you're talking about the math of DIY you are not taking into consideration the math of labor and time.
    - herbst 10y ago
      Most full automatic machines are faster than a espresso machine. You you just fill it like twice a week and not every single time. IMO the time point does not count. Disclaimer: I dont know what a keurig is. I only drink espresso and i like them as good as possible
      - dexterdog 10y ago
        I have a full automatic at home. Another one for the office would cost me about $1000. I got the one I have used. It takes up a lot of space. The nespresso was about $70 and is tiny. I recycle the pods.
        herbst 10y ago
        Sorry for beeing picky on this. Ive worked a while with coffee machines while getting my IT edu. A 70$ nespresso machine is a mess. Realistically you would replace that yearly because it gets to a health hazard soon. (Mold and crisp plastic) a good one with basic standards will cost you more like $250. A ok fullautomate can be bought from like $500. About the recylcling ether you make art out of them or that really does not mean that much. Painted plastic coated aluminium does not really recycle very well. When people brought in nespresso machines (of all price ranges except the >$500 ones from proper brands) we would show them the internals and scratch a little mold from here and there. It was seriously the most easy way to sell them a proper machine.
joering2 10y ago
Sometimes you can tell the company spirit by simply being interviewed there. I once was there and the process and people doing my review were awful and look at everything in terms of measurement. "So Joe, from 1-10, how good of a husband are you?". Then a friend of mine told me that people who answer high score to that question were ignore right off the bat, since they looking for someone 8am-8pm. As she said, "so many times I was told by my manager if you have life and family, don't work here". Edit: interesting read from a few days ago, shows you their true colors: http://www.alternet.org/activism/nestle-trying-break-us-pennsylvania-town-fights-predatory-water-extraction http://www.alternet.org/activism/nestle-trying-break-us-penn... Edit #2: Should have said this was interview done in Europe. So different rules apply.
- hawkice 10y ago
  You are describing a hiring process that very possibly breaks federal law, given the EEOC describes it as "evidence of intent to discriminate". If you experienced this, talk to a lawyer instead of / in addition to HN. see: https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_marital_status.cfm https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_marital_status...
  - binarymax 10y ago
    That is in the USA. Hiring practices differ in other countries, and asking about marital status is not always illegal.
    - Spare_account 10y ago
      FWIW the question in the GP to yours would be illegal in a job interview the UK as well.
roflchoppa 10y ago
dude my 5th grade teacher told me this back in 2001/2002? I still remember it today, still avoid nestle products.
- makomk 10y ago
  Yeah, and very little has changed since then. If I remember correctly, Nestle's response to the baby milk controversy is held up as a example of how companies can tackle PR issues by involving themselves heavily in setting rules for their own industry, simultaneously making sure that the new rules don't actually obstruct them whilst looking like they're doing something about the problem. This is often seen as a positive example to imitate by utter scumbags.
- mongol 10y ago
  It goes even further back, early 80s at least.
  - roflchoppa 10y ago
    free app idea, called dirt, which bring up controversy about companies, so when you buy something, at least you can see where your dollar/peso/yen/euro is going. Various plug in options would be cool too, if you are browsing online, it finds dirt for you based on all the ads you get. *edit - wow since the 80's? Still they dont change their business tactics, what a shame, they had 30 years to stop this crap.
    - Practicality 10y ago
      Hmm, I am might make that actually. That sounds like a fun project.
    - maerF0x0 10y ago
      kind of already exists: https://www.buycott.com/ https://www.buycott.com/
wmeredith 10y ago
Nestle is a truly evil company. Like james Bond villain evil. I avoid their products like the plague.
billmalarky 10y ago
The best part about a Nestle boycott is it is great for you healthwise. I guess it shouldn't be surprising that most of the food products made by such an evil company are basically poison. I mean look at their list of ~crap~ brands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands It's all junk food designed to take advantage of human cravings in order to maximize profits. You would be hard pressed to find a _single_ healthy product outside of their water brands, which are of course insanely marked up versions of literally the most abundant natural resource on the planet.
- AceJohnny2 10y ago
  > literally the most abundant natural resource on the planet. _Second_ most abundant natural resource. I like my free oxygen. ;p ...wait, silicium's a natural resource too, right? Oh darn I've over-pedanticized myself.
  - eropple 10y ago
    Nerd self-sniping is the most ignominious of fates.
  - 77pt77 10y ago
    Nitrogen?
    - AceJohnny2 10y ago
      I thought of it at first, but I think silicium beats it as it's most of Earth's crust.
  - billmalarky 10y ago
    >Oh darn I've over-pedanticized myself. Eh don't feel so bad, in my other anti-nestle comment in this thread I actually contradicted my own statement above entirely... That is, water as a global resource is incredibly abundant, _clean available water_ not so much... Which of course Nestle profits off of in horrific ways.
77pt77 10y ago
>Also, they have been calling for privatization and taking away water as a basic human right In many places hoarding the water that falls in your property is prohibited. Nestle is far from original in going down that road.
- inDigiNeous 10y ago
  Sure, but is that a right thing to outlaw ? I don't think so. We should have access to basic needs like water, food and healthcare. We can do that, it's only the greed of corporations, nations and ultimately greedy people that limits that.
  - 77pt77 10y ago
    Totally agree. When I found that I storing the water that falls on your property might be illegal I was flabbergasted. Also all the subsoil mineral rights. A company might just demand to extract oil from your property. These things change according to jurisdiction but they are not uncommon.
    - Retra 10y ago
      That's so Joe Schmo doesn't sue the company across the street from drilling into an oil reserve that happens to extend under his property. You can't really extract underground resources while respecting above-ground property lines, especially when you're talking about liquids or gasses. It's not like they can demolish your house and build a pump there just because you don't own what's under it.
      - 77pt77 10y ago
        >It's not like they can demolish your house and build a pump there just because you don't own what's under it. Actually in some places in the US it is like that. They will offer compensation thought.
abandonliberty 10y ago
Our organizations and commercial environment select for bad behavior. There's nothing uniquely evil about Nestle. The real evil are the organizations and structures that nurture this type of behavior. This type of behavior is nurtured, otherwise it wouldn't exist. These issues affect all organizations, including countries. We are losing at fighting the symptoms: bad behaviors. We need to figure out how to fix the root cause.
- TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
  Corporations are of course amoral (not immoral) entities. They are a product of their incentives, in good part.
PhasmaFelis 10y ago
That's actually a kinder description of the baby formula thing than I'd heard. At some point in the '80s, at least, they were giving out a couple months' worth of formula to new third-world mothers, knowing that their natural lactation would stop in that time and they'd be forced to buy more at full price or let the baby starve.
herbst 10y ago
In switzerland we dont even have a good bunch of these products, chocolate and candies from them are way to boring for the average consumption and well some of the other products are used by some. I think its funny that nestle is basically one of the biggest income sources even thought most people in the country where it comes from avoid it anyway because of the usually low quality.

nashashmi 10y ago

Poland Spring and Deer Park water are not on there. And obviously Nestle purelife water is not on there.

dexterdog 10y ago

I can follow that list no problem except for nespresso. The quality bang for the buck you get with those is so much better than the garbage that passes for coffee in a k-cup.

kolbe 10y ago
It is pretty hard to be moral when soooo much is at stake.
- inDigiNeous 10y ago
  :D Yeah companies like these strive on the fact that they have the power to purchase many, many companies and conquer markets from many directions. Sadly for example the popular Finnish Penguin icecream was bought by Nestle, but they didn't of course change the name, so many people maybe still believe that it's still being owned by Finnish companies. The product didn't change, so that's good, but now the money is going to a multinational company instead of a local one. So yeah, it's kinda difficult to avoid all of these.
semi-extrinsic 10y ago
No, it's not. If you actually do the math, the Nespresso coffee pods are so expensive per cup as compared to buying ground or whole espresso beans in tins, that a Nespresso machine with pods vs a proper Rancilio Silvia with Illy espresso breaks even in a little more than 12 months. Even though the Rancilio is $650+. Also, the Nespresso pods are pretty bad on the environment, since they're made from aluminium (energy intensive process) but can't be recycled since they're full of spent coffee.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  Most of what I'm paying for is the convenience. I have a machine in my office that I can hit a button on and get a shot out very quickly. I have a similar Jura machine at home that starts with beans and pulls a shot. The Nespresso shots are almost always better.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    Yeah, you don't want an "automatic" machine that does grinding, tamping and pulling the shot. It just doesn't work well, they don't make good espresso IMO. Even the ones I've used at various work locations, that cost thousands of dollars, are pretty bad. What you need is a manual (aka semi-automatic) machine, and a proper grinder (I have the Ascaso I2 and like it a lot) or even just pre-ground Illy, it's not that bad. Learning how to grind, tamp etc. takes about a month. From then it's pure espresso magic. For extra hipster points, buy a really manual machine, aka lever machine: https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/brands/la-pavoni https://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/brands/la-pavoni
    - dexterdog 10y ago
      I have wanted to get one of those for the house, but as I said, in the office it's hard to beat a nespresso when the automatic alternative is keurig.
    - jacoblambda 10y ago
      the hipster points are irrelevant for the la pavoni, they are just straight up beautiful machines.
rawfan 10y ago
You COULD of course just get real coffee. You could buy the highest quality of coffee beans from a local roaster who imports the stuff himself from a farmer in Ethiopia and it would still be cheaper than Nespresso. It would be way tastier but you'd need to grind the coffee and use something like an AeroPress to make it.
- llukas 10y ago
  Most of local roasters can grind coffee as well ;) I second AeroPress but also Hario V60 or other pour over methods are excellent.
  - herbst 10y ago
    You still would want to grind it at home. After grinding it starts loosing taste, not relevant how you package it except you make single use packages.
- madeofpalk 10y ago
  AeroPress does not produce Espresso coffee, which the Nespresso machine does. You COULD grind your beans, brew the coffee yourself, clean up the mess you made and then clean the machine up. Or just pop a pod in and drink your coffee. I couldn't live without my Nespresso machine because it's an amazing compromise between ease of use, reliability and quality. It's 'good enough' compared to 'proper' coffee while being a million times easier and consistent.
matwood 10y ago
Buy a small grinder and 2-5 cup drip coffee maker. You'll get better tasting coffee, and it's much much cheaper. It literally takes 20 seconds to grind coffee beans, and it is the easiest/cheapest way to go from meh coffee to good coffee.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  That's not espresso
  - kolbe 10y ago
    the horror. the horror.
    - dexterdog 10y ago
      It's not a snob issue. It's just that if you prefer an espresso-based drink, that is what you prefer. If I preferred a drip-based drink I would have many cheaper options.
      - kolbe 10y ago
        Then don't pretend you stand on any moral high ground if you cannot be bothered to endure the difference between espresso and drip to support a larger cause. Your original claim that you in some way support a boycott on Nestle is bullshit. You just coincidentally don't like their other products.
        dexterdog 10y ago
        No, I just coincidentally have an option on their other products. Nobody else makes a decent instant espresso option. Even the alternative pods that you can get for the nespresso machine are garbage as I have tried many of them.
        kolbe 10y ago
pseud0r 10y ago
Buy a grinder and an aeropress. It's a quick way to make coffee and it's way better than nespresso.
- branchless 10y ago
  Agreed. Had the same aeropress for 4 years. Very easy to clean. The filters are very cheap, you'd normally expect to be gouged on these by some bean counter scumbag.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  I've done grind and aero. It's not espresso. It makes a good cup of regular coffee if that's what you're after, but if I'm going manual like that I prefer my french press.
goseeastarwar 10y ago
The coffee snobs (I say that with a lot of love) are out in full effect in your replies, but I'm with you. I did the whole Chemex, Aeropress, weight scale, burr grinder, Japanese tea kettle, etc etc and my Nespresso machine is by far and away the easiest way to get delicious coffee. My wife also adores their Aeroccino for perfect lattes every time. As far as recycling, Nespresso provides free, self-addressed bags that you drop in the mail with your spent pods and they handle it for you.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  I now they do that, but I figure the environmental footprint of that is probably much worse that peeling off the foil, dumping the coffee and recycling the aluminum is pretty high.
- zizee 10y ago
  Correct me if I am wrong, but none of those other devices sound like an espresso machine, so to comparing the product produced by them with the product of a pod device produces is apples to oranges. Perhaps I am a bit particular, but I've never produced a coffee that I was happy with using non-espresso devices. Perhaps you are the same? Maybe you could give a proper espresso machine a go? That said, I have to say that I am surprised about the quality of the espresso shot produced by these pod devices, but I still think that you get a better result by grinding yourself with a half decent espresso machine, all without being so wasteful and being able to support local roasters. Once you take those positives, and your new found smugness/feeling of superiority the choice is easy! :-)
  - goseeastarwar 10y ago
    You're correct it's not a straight comparison, I was looking at it more from the generic "black liquid with caffeine" point of view. I've been lucky enough to use La Marzocco espresso machines at work for many years and they absolutely make better espresso than my Nespresso machine. The problem is that machine was $15k and my Nespresso was $100. I understand there are more consumer-grade espresso machines, but those still cost $1000+ and don't necessarily make espresso better than the Nespresso.
herbst 10y ago
I am 100% sure you never did the math. I worked for a small roaster in switzerland importing only organic coffee. Price per cup was about the half.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  What math? The math of nespresso vs k-cup? I know it's more expensive, but you can't do espresso with keurig. If you're talking about the math of DIY you are not taking into consideration the math of labor and time.
  - herbst 10y ago
    Most full automatic machines are faster than a espresso machine. You you just fill it like twice a week and not every single time. IMO the time point does not count. Disclaimer: I dont know what a keurig is. I only drink espresso and i like them as good as possible
    - dexterdog 10y ago
      I have a full automatic at home. Another one for the office would cost me about $1000. I got the one I have used. It takes up a lot of space. The nespresso was about $70 and is tiny. I recycle the pods.
      - herbst 10y ago
        Sorry for beeing picky on this. Ive worked a while with coffee machines while getting my IT edu. A 70$ nespresso machine is a mess. Realistically you would replace that yearly because it gets to a health hazard soon. (Mold and crisp plastic) a good one with basic standards will cost you more like $250. A ok fullautomate can be bought from like $500. About the recylcling ether you make art out of them or that really does not mean that much. Painted plastic coated aluminium does not really recycle very well. When people brought in nespresso machines (of all price ranges except the >$500 ones from proper brands) we would show them the internals and scratch a little mold from here and there. It was seriously the most easy way to sell them a proper machine.

joering2 10y ago

Sometimes you can tell the company spirit by simply being interviewed there. I once was there and the process and people doing my review were awful and look at everything in terms of measurement. "So Joe, from 1-10, how good of a husband are you?". Then a friend of mine told me that people who answer high score to that question were ignore right off the bat, since they looking for someone 8am-8pm. As she said, "so many times I was told by my manager if you have life and family, don't work here". Edit: interesting read from a few days ago, shows you their true colors: http://www.alternet.org/activism/nestle-trying-break-us-pennsylvania-town-fights-predatory-water-extraction http://www.alternet.org/activism/nestle-trying-break-us-penn... Edit #2: Should have said this was interview done in Europe. So different rules apply.

hawkice 10y ago
You are describing a hiring process that very possibly breaks federal law, given the EEOC describes it as "evidence of intent to discriminate". If you experienced this, talk to a lawyer instead of / in addition to HN. see: https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_marital_status.cfm https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_marital_status...
- binarymax 10y ago
  That is in the USA. Hiring practices differ in other countries, and asking about marital status is not always illegal.
  - Spare_account 10y ago
    FWIW the question in the GP to yours would be illegal in a job interview the UK as well.

roflchoppa 10y ago

dude my 5th grade teacher told me this back in 2001/2002? I still remember it today, still avoid nestle products.

makomk 10y ago
Yeah, and very little has changed since then. If I remember correctly, Nestle's response to the baby milk controversy is held up as a example of how companies can tackle PR issues by involving themselves heavily in setting rules for their own industry, simultaneously making sure that the new rules don't actually obstruct them whilst looking like they're doing something about the problem. This is often seen as a positive example to imitate by utter scumbags.
mongol 10y ago
It goes even further back, early 80s at least.
- roflchoppa 10y ago
  free app idea, called dirt, which bring up controversy about companies, so when you buy something, at least you can see where your dollar/peso/yen/euro is going. Various plug in options would be cool too, if you are browsing online, it finds dirt for you based on all the ads you get. *edit - wow since the 80's? Still they dont change their business tactics, what a shame, they had 30 years to stop this crap.
  - Practicality 10y ago
    Hmm, I am might make that actually. That sounds like a fun project.
  - maerF0x0 10y ago
    kind of already exists: https://www.buycott.com/ https://www.buycott.com/

wmeredith 10y ago

Nestle is a truly evil company. Like james Bond villain evil. I avoid their products like the plague.

billmalarky 10y ago

The best part about a Nestle boycott is it is great for you healthwise. I guess it shouldn't be surprising that most of the food products made by such an evil company are basically poison. I mean look at their list of ~crap~ brands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands It's all junk food designed to take advantage of human cravings in order to maximize profits. You would be hard pressed to find a _single_ healthy product outside of their water brands, which are of course insanely marked up versions of literally the most abundant natural resource on the planet.

AceJohnny2 10y ago
> literally the most abundant natural resource on the planet. _Second_ most abundant natural resource. I like my free oxygen. ;p ...wait, silicium's a natural resource too, right? Oh darn I've over-pedanticized myself.
- eropple 10y ago
  Nerd self-sniping is the most ignominious of fates.
- 77pt77 10y ago
  Nitrogen?
  - AceJohnny2 10y ago
    I thought of it at first, but I think silicium beats it as it's most of Earth's crust.
- billmalarky 10y ago
  >Oh darn I've over-pedanticized myself. Eh don't feel so bad, in my other anti-nestle comment in this thread I actually contradicted my own statement above entirely... That is, water as a global resource is incredibly abundant, _clean available water_ not so much... Which of course Nestle profits off of in horrific ways.

77pt77 10y ago

>Also, they have been calling for privatization and taking away water as a basic human right In many places hoarding the water that falls in your property is prohibited. Nestle is far from original in going down that road.

inDigiNeous 10y ago
Sure, but is that a right thing to outlaw ? I don't think so. We should have access to basic needs like water, food and healthcare. We can do that, it's only the greed of corporations, nations and ultimately greedy people that limits that.
- 77pt77 10y ago
  Totally agree. When I found that I storing the water that falls on your property might be illegal I was flabbergasted. Also all the subsoil mineral rights. A company might just demand to extract oil from your property. These things change according to jurisdiction but they are not uncommon.
  - Retra 10y ago
    That's so Joe Schmo doesn't sue the company across the street from drilling into an oil reserve that happens to extend under his property. You can't really extract underground resources while respecting above-ground property lines, especially when you're talking about liquids or gasses. It's not like they can demolish your house and build a pump there just because you don't own what's under it.
    - 77pt77 10y ago
      >It's not like they can demolish your house and build a pump there just because you don't own what's under it. Actually in some places in the US it is like that. They will offer compensation thought.

abandonliberty 10y ago

Our organizations and commercial environment select for bad behavior. There's nothing uniquely evil about Nestle. The real evil are the organizations and structures that nurture this type of behavior. This type of behavior is nurtured, otherwise it wouldn't exist. These issues affect all organizations, including countries. We are losing at fighting the symptoms: bad behaviors. We need to figure out how to fix the root cause.

TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
Corporations are of course amoral (not immoral) entities. They are a product of their incentives, in good part.

PhasmaFelis 10y ago

That's actually a kinder description of the baby formula thing than I'd heard. At some point in the '80s, at least, they were giving out a couple months' worth of formula to new third-world mothers, knowing that their natural lactation would stop in that time and they'd be forced to buy more at full price or let the baby starve.

herbst 10y ago

In switzerland we dont even have a good bunch of these products, chocolate and candies from them are way to boring for the average consumption and well some of the other products are used by some. I think its funny that nestle is basically one of the biggest income sources even thought most people in the country where it comes from avoid it anyway because of the usually low quality.