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Meanwhile, in France: https://www.scaleway.com/ https://www.scaleway.com/ Same thing with OVH, you can get a powerful dedicated server with unlimited bandwidth

by raitom 10y ago

Meanwhile, in France: https://www.scaleway.com/ https://www.scaleway.com/ Same thing with OVH, you can get a powerful dedicated server with unlimited bandwidth for the price of a medium EC2 instance. I hope they will open their datacenter in California soon.

msh 10y ago
I don't understand how they can live on those prices. I have their 3 euro arm server and have no problem pushing more than a 100 megabit a second from it.
- loader 10y ago
  It's two fold. Amazon bandwidth is, I assume, premium tier 1. Where as ovh and scaleway are probably lower tier. Lower tier bandwidth is dirt cheap, like below $0.25 per mbps. Edit: 3 things, it's also shared among a lot of users that don't use what they can. For everyone using 100mbps there's probably 20 who use less then 1mbps.
  - chx 10y ago
    Right. We have a 3EUR a month VPS serving as a backup server, it is a MySQL slave, doing a snapshot regularly and sending the snapshot off to a storage VPS. It certainly doesn't use 1mbps except when it rsyncs to the storage.
  - dx034 10y ago
    OVH has a pretty solid network and are very transparent about peering and utilization.[1] The network is definitely much smaller than Amazon, but never had any problems with their peering, the network seems to have ample capacity (whereas Hetzner had less reliable peering). I have several servers in the OVH network in Europe and I get consistently high speeds for Europe&US, independent of the time I test (don't have much traffic from Asia so can't really test that). They will offer you better peering if you pay extra, but even then you're paying much less than at AWS for high traffic. I suspect that AWS makes most profit with bandwidth while other services run with a very low margin. [1] http://weathermap.ovh.net/ http://weathermap.ovh.net/
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jedisct1 10y ago
Amazon sells at prices people are willing to buy. Keep in mind that in France, very few people know that Amazon is more than a website selling books and random stuff. But in the US, very few people know about OVH and Scaleway.
- adventured 10y ago
  Not to mention that Amazon is selling a large ecosystem of services and you pay for it accordingly. If someone doesn't need that, they'd be crazy to pay Amazon's premium. OVH and Scaleway are selling fundamentally different products than AWS is.

by raitom 10y ago

msh 10y ago

I don't understand how they can live on those prices. I have their 3 euro arm server and have no problem pushing more than a 100 megabit a second from it.

loader 10y ago
It's two fold. Amazon bandwidth is, I assume, premium tier 1. Where as ovh and scaleway are probably lower tier. Lower tier bandwidth is dirt cheap, like below $0.25 per mbps. Edit: 3 things, it's also shared among a lot of users that don't use what they can. For everyone using 100mbps there's probably 20 who use less then 1mbps.
- chx 10y ago
  Right. We have a 3EUR a month VPS serving as a backup server, it is a MySQL slave, doing a snapshot regularly and sending the snapshot off to a storage VPS. It certainly doesn't use 1mbps except when it rsyncs to the storage.
- dx034 10y ago
  OVH has a pretty solid network and are very transparent about peering and utilization.[1] The network is definitely much smaller than Amazon, but never had any problems with their peering, the network seems to have ample capacity (whereas Hetzner had less reliable peering). I have several servers in the OVH network in Europe and I get consistently high speeds for Europe&US, independent of the time I test (don't have much traffic from Asia so can't really test that). They will offer you better peering if you pay extra, but even then you're paying much less than at AWS for high traffic. I suspect that AWS makes most profit with bandwidth while other services run with a very low margin. [1] http://weathermap.ovh.net/ http://weathermap.ovh.net/
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jedisct1 10y ago

Amazon sells at prices people are willing to buy. Keep in mind that in France, very few people know that Amazon is more than a website selling books and random stuff. But in the US, very few people know about OVH and Scaleway.

adventured 10y ago
Not to mention that Amazon is selling a large ecosystem of services and you pay for it accordingly. If someone doesn't need that, they'd be crazy to pay Amazon's premium. OVH and Scaleway are selling fundamentally different products than AWS is.