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Ask HN: Lower back exercise

3 points by codegeek 10y ago

All I didn't think it would get to this point but I am 200 lbs (5'11 height) and overweight by at least 20 lbs. Lately, lower back trouble has started and it friggin sucks. I have not been exercising for a while so I know I need to get back in shape. Any suggestions to deal with lower back without resorting to medications etc ? I end up pulling my lower back muscle randomly and it really hurts. Went to doc and they just said "loose weight". I am thinking of buying a back brace and of course, start exercising. But any tips from pros here is appreciated.

neverminder 10y ago
Squats, stiff leg deadlifts, back rows should do it, but you need to be cautious of your form. Still, none of that will mean squat (no pun intended) if the diet is crap.
jonny_storm 10y ago
I'm (barely) 5' 11", and I hover around 175 lbs. through diet, alone. Many years ago, my highest weight was 265 lbs. I dealt with my back occasionally "going out" entirely for years, to the point where I couldn't leave my bed for a day or more. I was able to correct this through isometric exercises, specifically "planking" (or "plank pose"), to build core muscles, protecting my spine. I suggest using the front, back, and side poses in which you rest on your elbows. This keeps you closer to the floor. This way, when your muscles give out (and they will) you'll be able to bring yourself down gently. Once you become familiar with the feeling of activating your core muscle groups, you can do a lighter form of the same exercise while walking, sitting, or simply standing. In fact, engaging your core muscles is essential to avoiding injury during other exercises, and planks are a great way to make a habit of it. Exercise aside, I'm probably not telling you anything you haven't heard before, but examine your diet and see what can be adjusted. More and more, my diet looks like Dave Asprey's Bulletproof Diet, and I've never felt better. Best of luck!
dmfdmf 10y ago
Paleo for weight loss; http://www.marksdailyapple.com/blog/ http://www.marksdailyapple.com/blog/ And lifting/barbells for body/core strength; https://www.youtube.com/user/athrall7 https://www.youtube.com/user/athrall7 As neverminder mentioned, form is critical and take it slow until you build strength. I do benchpress, overhead press, squats and deadlift every other day and I am in/out of the gym in an hour. I've had two cervical fusion surgeries and found that typical Rx of pills, back braces, bed rest, take it easy (i.e. become sedentary), etc. just make things worse because they weaken the structure.
kasey_junk 10y ago
2 things: 1) You almost certainly won't lose weight without changing your diet. 2) Heavy weight exercise is great for lots of things, but if your lower back is hurting it could also be you aren't limber enough in your lower back and upper legs. Stretching for your glutes/hamstrings/IT bands etc may provide more immediate relief.
cauterized 10y ago
Stretch your calves and hamstrings. Thoroughly. No, really, try it. For the longer term, work on building up ab strength, which takes the load off your back muscles a bit. Those of us who sit all day long tend to have very weak abs. You might want to book an appointment or two with a physical therapist - not ongoing weekly treatments, but they should be able to show you exercises that are safe at your current level of conditioning and make sure you're using proper form. Without those two things, you run the risk of exacerbating your existing injury or causing a new, worse one.
joeclark77 10y ago
I've been learning the Starting Strength approach, and although I'm hardly an expert yet, it makes a lot of sense to me. Look for the book by Rippetoe: http://amzn.to/2gAliEO http://amzn.to/2gAliEO Essentially it's barbell training using four exercises that each work multiple muscle systems together: the squat, the press, the bench press, the deadlift. It's about building strength, not losing weight, but you'll experience both of those things, and strength will really help with your back. What appeals to me about the method is that it's based on solid thinking about the physics and physiology involved. The book is full of anatomical drawings that wouldn't be necessary and wouldn't be found in your average workout book. The creator really made a thorough study of strength training his life's work.
GusOnTheBus 10y ago
There are about 5 key stretching exercises for your back that you should consider. See the book "Treat your own back" When I injured my back 20 years ago I found them quite helpful in recuperating.

3 points by codegeek 10y ago

neverminder 10y ago

Squats, stiff leg deadlifts, back rows should do it, but you need to be cautious of your form. Still, none of that will mean squat (no pun intended) if the diet is crap.

jonny_storm 10y ago

I'm (barely) 5' 11", and I hover around 175 lbs. through diet, alone. Many years ago, my highest weight was 265 lbs. I dealt with my back occasionally "going out" entirely for years, to the point where I couldn't leave my bed for a day or more. I was able to correct this through isometric exercises, specifically "planking" (or "plank pose"), to build core muscles, protecting my spine. I suggest using the front, back, and side poses in which you rest on your elbows. This keeps you closer to the floor. This way, when your muscles give out (and they will) you'll be able to bring yourself down gently. Once you become familiar with the feeling of activating your core muscle groups, you can do a lighter form of the same exercise while walking, sitting, or simply standing. In fact, engaging your core muscles is essential to avoiding injury during other exercises, and planks are a great way to make a habit of it. Exercise aside, I'm probably not telling you anything you haven't heard before, but examine your diet and see what can be adjusted. More and more, my diet looks like Dave Asprey's Bulletproof Diet, and I've never felt better. Best of luck!

dmfdmf 10y ago

Paleo for weight loss; http://www.marksdailyapple.com/blog/ http://www.marksdailyapple.com/blog/ And lifting/barbells for body/core strength; https://www.youtube.com/user/athrall7 https://www.youtube.com/user/athrall7 As neverminder mentioned, form is critical and take it slow until you build strength. I do benchpress, overhead press, squats and deadlift every other day and I am in/out of the gym in an hour. I've had two cervical fusion surgeries and found that typical Rx of pills, back braces, bed rest, take it easy (i.e. become sedentary), etc. just make things worse because they weaken the structure.

kasey_junk 10y ago

2 things: 1) You almost certainly won't lose weight without changing your diet. 2) Heavy weight exercise is great for lots of things, but if your lower back is hurting it could also be you aren't limber enough in your lower back and upper legs. Stretching for your glutes/hamstrings/IT bands etc may provide more immediate relief.

cauterized 10y ago

Stretch your calves and hamstrings. Thoroughly. No, really, try it. For the longer term, work on building up ab strength, which takes the load off your back muscles a bit. Those of us who sit all day long tend to have very weak abs. You might want to book an appointment or two with a physical therapist - not ongoing weekly treatments, but they should be able to show you exercises that are safe at your current level of conditioning and make sure you're using proper form. Without those two things, you run the risk of exacerbating your existing injury or causing a new, worse one.

joeclark77 10y ago

I've been learning the Starting Strength approach, and although I'm hardly an expert yet, it makes a lot of sense to me. Look for the book by Rippetoe: http://amzn.to/2gAliEO http://amzn.to/2gAliEO Essentially it's barbell training using four exercises that each work multiple muscle systems together: the squat, the press, the bench press, the deadlift. It's about building strength, not losing weight, but you'll experience both of those things, and strength will really help with your back. What appeals to me about the method is that it's based on solid thinking about the physics and physiology involved. The book is full of anatomical drawings that wouldn't be necessary and wouldn't be found in your average workout book. The creator really made a thorough study of strength training his life's work.

GusOnTheBus 10y ago

There are about 5 key stretching exercises for your back that you should consider. See the book "Treat your own back" When I injured my back 20 years ago I found them quite helpful in recuperating.