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Do tell, when is the last time a sitting US president has murdered his political opponents?
by 67726e 10y ago
Do tell, when is the last time a sitting US president has murdered his political opponents?
- agottem 10y ago2011, Osama bin Laden was murdered. Hell, the US has setup a prison where we send people we don't like to be indefinitely detained and tortured without trial. Make no mistake, Obama would love to get his hands on Assange or Snowden and imprison them for life as well.
- dannypgh 10y agoFred Hampton is the most recent in my mind that isn't (in my view) ambiguous. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton
- 67726e 10y agoGiven the numerous trials and inquests, include one which made sure to include members of the community, it certainly seems ambiguous. I'll ignore the fact that I mentioned head of state for the purposes of discussion, but what in your mind makes the situation unambiguous? I've only know heard of Fred Hampton, outside of a Rage Against the Machine mention so I'm certainly not well informed on the matter.
- dannypgh 10y agoThe FBI reports to the head of state. Are you somehow arguing that it's /better/ if the politician relies on others to do their violence for them? (As if Castro himself was the sole person to arrest or execute his enemies...) Suggested reading as to why it's not ambiguous: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4375527 http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4375527 The history of how the FBI suppressed Black, Native, Latino, and New Leftist organizations more generally is a bloody one. Cuba has never had a monopoly on authoritarian behavior in the Western Hemisphere.
- 67726e 10y agoI never once said that. In fact I asked for clarification on the incident but you seem unwilling to give that.
- dannypgh 10y ago"but you seem unwilling to give that" No, you seem unwilling to read the link I gave? From the article: "That same month, on April 23, 1976, the Church Committee released its Final Staff Report on the FBI and CIA’s rampant domestic illegalities which included a chapter entitled “The FBI’s Covert Action Plan to Destroy the Black Panther Party.” The chapter concluded by highlighting the Hampton raid as a COINTELPRO operation and quoting from the bonus documents that we had obtained only weeks before."
- 67726e 10y agoI read the link. They were cleared several times on the given incident. Instead of taking a charitable approach you throw out your political bullshit.
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- tomp 10y agoHillary expressed a wish to "drone" Assange, and Obama actually "droned" a lot of people (that the US has branded "terrorists").
- 67726e 10y agoKilling terrorists does not put you on the same level as Castro.
- agottem 10y agoDefine 'terrorist'
- tomp 10y agoI'm sure most of the Afghanis and Iraqis who've been oppressed by the US for decades would agree. /s
- NetStrikeForce 10y agoNo, it doesn't. However, you seem to be fairly convinced those people are all terrorists and not just political opponents that are under our drones' crosshairs. I guess the people massacred at that MSF hospital were terrorists, too.
- 67726e 10y ago> I guess the people massacred at that MSF hospital were terrorists, too. That wasn't a drone strike. That was an accidental attack by an AC-130 gunship. I'm sure folks in Yemen or Afghanistan are a political threat to Obama. Right.
- NetStrikeForce 10y agoAh, you're right. It wasn't a drone, it was humans massacring a MSF hospital by accident. I guess the irony of it should be self explanatory. If humans can attack during at least 30 minutes a (well-known) position by mistake, why should I believe that every single droned person was a terrorist?
- finid 10y agoI think most replying to this comment are too young to remember that the CIA made several unsuccessful attempts to kill Castro himself, and Muammar Gaddafi. And those where the unsuccessful attempts that we know.
- 67726e 10y agoI hadn't quite considered that. I suppose that very well might count, though I was particularly thinking in the domestic sense.
- disusered 10y agoDomestically there was Anwar al-Awlaki who was a US citizen who proselytised against the USA. His 16 year old nephew who was also a citizen was killed as well, despite no known involvement. To be fair, earlier in the year the administration promised to implement additional safeguards and oversight for these programmes, but brass tacks a progressive administration killed US citizens in non-war zones because of an executive decision with no due process.