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Mail-in ballots are the devil, they allow vote-buying. It happens with regularity that elections are annulled in ethnic enclaves in the UK over that. Elections

Mail-in ballots are the devil, they allow vote-buying. It happens with regularity that elections are annulled in ethnic enclaves in the UK over that. Elections don't have to be convenient, first of all they have to be safe.

strathmeyer 10y ago
In America we prefer the Clinton "walking around money" type of vote buying?
- nindalf 10y ago
  > In America we prefer the Clinton "walking around money" type of vote buying? Is it just me or does this sentence not make sense?
  - mwfunk 10y ago
    It doesn't, it sounds like something that a Markov chain would say. It sounds vaguely critical of Clinton, but doesn't quite parse as English and is devoid of actual information or analysis. I fear that Markov chains aren't just a way to replicate things that people might say, but might actually model human cognitive processes in some way. :(
  - BoorishBears 10y ago
    It kind of makes sense to me, I think the poster is trying to say Clinton buys votes but in a way we prefer/tolerate. That way being "walking around money" in the sense of mingling with wealthy people at expensive events funded by other wealthy people in an attempt gain favor (and votes) from the people who can afford those events. I think it's being purposely dramatic, but the English (kind of) adds up.
    - tedunangst 10y ago
      That's not walking around money.
      - jacobush 10y ago
        Walking amongst money?
  - matwood 10y ago
    It is legal and common in the US [1]. It's typically done by the democrats because in general more people voting is good for democrats and bad for republicans. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_money
mavhc 10y ago
Which elections were annulled?
- deleted 10y ago
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- joncrocks 10y ago
  There was a fairly well publicised incident in Tower Hamlets (part of London) where a local mayoral election was declared void for reasons including "Voting fraud: ballots were double-cast or cast from false addresses" [1] [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648 Was this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Fall_from_office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Fal...
  - HarryHirsch 10y ago
    The one I was thinking about was probably this one from Bradford: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/06/men-jailed-attempted-postal-vote-fraud https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/06/men-jailed-...
  - rounce 10y ago
    The whole Luftur Rahman BS is (I think) more to do with the fact that he's a totally dodgy c&nt (as are quite possibly some of his close associates - juicy 'gossip' in Private Eye), not his ethnic or religious background. The long line of DodgyC&nts™ at TH has yet to be broken, even going back to "The-Good-Old-Days".
    - jacobush 10y ago
      Haha, keeping with tradition then. The conservative choice: a Dodgy C&nt. :)
rounce 10y ago
I find it curious that you don't think this also happens in middle-England Tory stronghold constituencies, or certain middle-class London Labour ones for that matter.

strathmeyer 10y ago

In America we prefer the Clinton "walking around money" type of vote buying?

nindalf 10y ago
> In America we prefer the Clinton "walking around money" type of vote buying? Is it just me or does this sentence not make sense?
- mwfunk 10y ago
  It doesn't, it sounds like something that a Markov chain would say. It sounds vaguely critical of Clinton, but doesn't quite parse as English and is devoid of actual information or analysis. I fear that Markov chains aren't just a way to replicate things that people might say, but might actually model human cognitive processes in some way. :(
- BoorishBears 10y ago
  It kind of makes sense to me, I think the poster is trying to say Clinton buys votes but in a way we prefer/tolerate. That way being "walking around money" in the sense of mingling with wealthy people at expensive events funded by other wealthy people in an attempt gain favor (and votes) from the people who can afford those events. I think it's being purposely dramatic, but the English (kind of) adds up.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    That's not walking around money.
    - jacobush 10y ago
      Walking amongst money?
- matwood 10y ago
  It is legal and common in the US [1]. It's typically done by the democrats because in general more people voting is good for democrats and bad for republicans. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_money https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_money

mavhc 10y ago

Which elections were annulled?

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joncrocks 10y ago
There was a fairly well publicised incident in Tower Hamlets (part of London) where a local mayoral election was declared void for reasons including "Voting fraud: ballots were double-cast or cast from false addresses" [1] [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648 Was this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Fall_from_office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Fal...
- HarryHirsch 10y ago
  The one I was thinking about was probably this one from Bradford: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/06/men-jailed-attempted-postal-vote-fraud https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/06/men-jailed-...
- rounce 10y ago
  The whole Luftur Rahman BS is (I think) more to do with the fact that he's a totally dodgy c&nt (as are quite possibly some of his close associates - juicy 'gossip' in Private Eye), not his ethnic or religious background. The long line of DodgyC&nts™ at TH has yet to be broken, even going back to "The-Good-Old-Days".
  - jacobush 10y ago
    Haha, keeping with tradition then. The conservative choice: a Dodgy C&nt. :)

rounce 10y ago

I find it curious that you don't think this also happens in middle-England Tory stronghold constituencies, or certain middle-class London Labour ones for that matter.