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Is administrators editing users' posts as a norm of the internet something you would be comfortable with? Are spez's actions acceptable in a vacuum, or should t
by rfrank 10y ago
Is administrators editing users' posts as a norm of the internet something you would be comfortable with? Are spez's actions acceptable in a vacuum, or should they be a norm of internet moderation in your eyes?
- taurath 10y agoWhen did it become a norm?
- rfrank 10y agoThat has literally nothing to do with the question. Considering whether an action is acceptable only in an instance, or universally, is an extremely basic way of determining if it is morally correct. Do you think spez's actions can or should be made a norm?
- Pyxl101 10y agoKant called this the categorical imperative: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative - a philosophical statement about morality: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."
- rfrank 10y agoThank you. That's exactly what I was thinking of, it's just late haha.
- raverbashing 10y agoCorrect (in the philosophical sense) However hindsight is 20/20 and you can't make rules for everything Wanting to make everything an universal law is missing the trees for the forest. Because things change and situations change and what has worked before may not work anymore or have a detrimental effect. Violence might not be moral, but it works.
- rfrank 10y agoSo many words, so little to say.
- Mithaldu 10y agoFine and all, but what exactly is the law here?
- siidooloo 10y agoIs Falsely accusing people of being pedophiles for political gain an action that should be made a norm?
- rfrank 10y agoDo you actually think most people are questioning whether or not their witch hunt was the right thing to do? Jesus christ.
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- raverbashing 10y agoIt should not be the rule, but when you call someone a pedophile and breed a feud of hate and misinformation under their nose don't expect your welcome to last And no, Reddit is not a democracy, there's no free speech there. Still, it is much, much more tolerant than facebook. But a limit exists
- rfrank 10y agoI'm missing the point.
- wmeredith 10y agoI think the point being made is his actions are understandable in context.
- rfrank 10y agoAnd I think that is incorrect, and spez's actions are inexcusable.
- Mithaldu 10y agoAh, ok, so you're saying if i managed to convince a a few youtube personalities that you're a child trafficker and they talked to their audience and invited them to attack you over it, and the thousands hound you for a month over it on every possible venue you might frequent, including actually calling your home for the lulz, you'd be an emotionless rock and vulcan overlord with not so much a twitch as a reaction, despite things being actively and effectively disrupting for your personal and professional life for a month. Is that it?
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- tptacek 10y agoWhat part of "free speech" do you not understand? Is I think how the rest of this argument goes, ad infinitum.
- basch 10y agofrom the trolls perspective, and only in that context, it should be funny though. he should be their hero now. they should give props for beating them at their own game. hugs all around. instead now is the time when everyone gets serious. it will be hard to separate the principled outrage from the faux manipulative outrage. a new poes law of sorts.
- samstave 10y agoExactly: Lets draw some parallels; * "No, judge, I was not speeding through that intersection" | JUDGE: "Well, hang on a second - my edit to your ticket states that you were... Takem 'em away boys!" WTF: im livid that anyone on HN would defend literally debasing the credibility of any system with a single freaking action of a CEO/Employee with such an obvious abuse of a root-level position.... I am so angry about this I can't even articulate it well...