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It sounds like you are really set on this point. Maybe try considering that to a lot of intelligent people (like me (not US citizen), like my immigrant/minority

It sounds like you are really set on this point. Maybe try considering that to a lot of intelligent people (like me (not US citizen), like my immigrant/minority family (who also happen to have education from top US universities) who voted for Trump, like millions of others who voted for him of various backgrounds, education, ethnicity and political views you sound like you are either incredibly ignorant or dumb on purpose. I am not saying this lightly, to me people who hold the most morally repugnant positions rarely sound dumb on purpose. I think they are wrong, I think they are not emphatic, sometimes straight up evil but they rarely sound just completely brainwashed. You do though. I rarely see something as wrong and arrogant on HN and I read the comments every day. You are just not getting it at all. Read the comments of people who replied to you and try to understand why his comment is not about all Mexicans. I realize that I sound to you as arrogant ignorant person lecturing you on reading comprehension but I am doing you a favor. You will lose a lot of contacts and opportunities if you continue to argue this way without even seeing where the other side is coming from.

edblarney 10y ago
Donald J Trump: "Mexicans coming to America are rapists" Random Person: "That's pretty much racist" Trump Supporter: "You're an idiot, ignoramus, shut up stupid, you didn't understand what he meant, he's not a lawyer - why should he have to worry about specific words" "I am not saying this lightly" - you want to 'lose contacts and friends'? Go into your office tommorow and repeat Trump's statement. In full - for context if you want. You will lose your job immediately, and probably a few friends and acquaintances. It doesn't matter that you voted for Trump, what your ethnicity or education is - that's besides the point. What I care about is that some people clearly do not seem to understand what point-blank bigotry is when it's right in our faces. This is not 'leftists overreach' or 'left wing bias' or 'social progressive oppression' - it's just bigotry on the part of Trump. It's just a very obviously racist statement, something someone in any public office or that has any public position should never ever say. Stop defending it.
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  >Donald J Trump: "Mexicans coming to America are rapists" >Random Person: "That's pretty much racist" >Trump Supporter: "You're an idiot, ignoramus, shut up stupid, you didn't understand what he meant, he's not a lawyer - why should he have to worry about specific words" That's not how this exchange with Trump supporters has gone. I believe it's been reasonably polite, despite some rather inflammatory rhetoric from the non-Trump side.

edblarney 10y ago

Donald J Trump: "Mexicans coming to America are rapists" Random Person: "That's pretty much racist" Trump Supporter: "You're an idiot, ignoramus, shut up stupid, you didn't understand what he meant, he's not a lawyer - why should he have to worry about specific words" "I am not saying this lightly" - you want to 'lose contacts and friends'? Go into your office tommorow and repeat Trump's statement. In full - for context if you want. You will lose your job immediately, and probably a few friends and acquaintances. It doesn't matter that you voted for Trump, what your ethnicity or education is - that's besides the point. What I care about is that some people clearly do not seem to understand what point-blank bigotry is when it's right in our faces. This is not 'leftists overreach' or 'left wing bias' or 'social progressive oppression' - it's just bigotry on the part of Trump. It's just a very obviously racist statement, something someone in any public office or that has any public position should never ever say. Stop defending it.

cookiecaper 10y ago
>Donald J Trump: "Mexicans coming to America are rapists" >Random Person: "That's pretty much racist" >Trump Supporter: "You're an idiot, ignoramus, shut up stupid, you didn't understand what he meant, he's not a lawyer - why should he have to worry about specific words" That's not how this exchange with Trump supporters has gone. I believe it's been reasonably polite, despite some rather inflammatory rhetoric from the non-Trump side.