4 ms·
> Nice job slipping a completely unfounded lie into your response. Oh my. Yes Apple backdoors their phones for government surveillance access. There's no sne
by jwtadvice 10y ago
> Nice job slipping a completely unfounded lie into your response.
Oh my.
Yes Apple backdoors their phones for government surveillance access.
There's no sneaking here. I'm saying it very clearly as a central tenet of my comment.
-----------------------
Here's a list of things that Apple will provide from Apple's own Guide for Law Enforcement Access:
- Device Registration (name, address, email address, telephone number, iCloud Apple ID)
- Customer Service Records
- iTunes (name, physical address, email address, and telephone number, purchase/download transactions and connections, update/re-download connections, and iTunes Match connections, iTunes subscriber information and connection logs with IP addresses, specific content purchased or downloaded).
- Apple Retail Store Transactions (cash, credit/debit card, or gift card transactions, type of card, name of the purchaser, email address, date/time of the transaction, amount of the transaction, and store location, receipt number)
- Apple Online Store Purchases (name, shipping address, telephone number, email address, product purchased, purchase amount)
- iTunes Gift Cards (sixteen-digit alphanumeric code, nineteen-digit code, any purchases, name of the store, location, date, and time, user account
- iCloud (music, photos, documents, iCloud email, encryption keys, Subscriber Information, iCloud feature connections, connection logs with IP addresses, Mail Logs, records of incoming and outgoing communications such as time, date, sender email addresses, and recipient email addresses, Email Content, Other iCloud Content, Photo Stream, Docs, Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, iOS Device Backups, stored photos, documents, contacts, calendars, bookmarks and iOS device backups, photos and videos in the users’ camera roll, device settings, app data, iMessage, SMS, and MMS messages and voicemail)
- Find My iPhone (including connection logs)
- Other Available Device Information (MAC Address for Bluetooth, Ethernet, WiFi, or FireWire)
- Requests for Apple Retail Store Surveillance Videos
- Game Center (Connection logs with IP addresses, specific game(s) played)
- iOS Device Activation (including upgrades the software, IP addresses, ICCID numbers, and other device identifiers)
- Sign-on Logs (iTunes, iCloud, My Apple ID, and Apple Discussions, Connection logs with IP addresses, Sign-on transactional records)
- My Apple ID and iForgot Logs (password reset actions, Connection logs with IP addresses)
- FaceTime (logs when a FaceTime call invitation is initiated, content protected by 15 bits of entropy if secure enclave baked key is obtained from manufacturer)
And, from this thread on HN today (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12977612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12977612): All call logs including contacts, timestamps, and durations including for third party applications on the phone like WhatsApp, Skype and Viber.
- josho 10y agoNothing listed is a backdoor. US law means that Apple must turn over data when demanded by authorities. These are access logs or files stored on Apple servers. A backdoor would be granting access into your device so that authorities could access your non-icloud email, or data saved locally on device.
- jwtadvice 10y ago> Nothing listed is a backdoor. I'm baffled. I like to think of the quality of HN comments as much higher. Apple had options to make this data unavailable by design to themselves and to law enforcement. They chose a design so that they could provide this information. The phone does it without the user's consent. However, I understand that there are people who would rather redefine terminology to suit their cognitive dissonance. In any case we can agree on the following: ----------- Apple provides a near majority of your sensitive information to law enforcement by the design of the product, and you can not use the product in a meaningful way without that information becoming available to state surveillance and state law enforcement.
- Whitestrake 10y agoIt's not a backdoor because there is nothing bypassing the security of your iPhone. All the data supplied comes from Apple's records, not your phone. If your phone was destroyed one day, and law enforcement requested this information the next, Apple would have no issue supplying it. They're not going to simply "not keep" records of your iTunes transactions and account details, for example. Your complaints regarding the inability to use their product in a meaningful manner without letting Apple collect this data have merit.
- givinguflac 10y agoThis is silly, you can absolutely use the product in a meaningful way without exposing data. Just don't use iCloud or iMessage (just use SMS) problem solved; no personal anything will go to their servers.
- willstrafach 10y ago