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It comes down to the DOD having a serious talk with Trump. They have been taking it just as seriously as the EPA.

gavinpc 10y ago
Exactly. I'm wondering how that circle is going to be squared. It can be done, though.
zanny 10y ago
This is from the man who thinks that US generals are inept and don't understand ISIS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY I'm not sure how hes supposed to give a damn what they say.
- barneygumble742 10y ago
  I know. In the past whether it was a republican or a democrat administration, they have always taken the counsel of the DOD very seriously. But like many things after this consequential election, the country is in uncharted territory. The US has always had a president with past government leadership or military experience. U.S.C. Article Two, Section 1 needs changes but that won't happen with constitutional purists currently in power.
  - api 10y ago
    I've seen lots of comparisons of Trump and Hitler, Mussolini, or Franco. Personally I'm seeing more parallels to Hugo Chavez. Chavez wrecked Venezuela in part by trying to "purge the insiders." That never works. Problem is that the insiders know everything and have all the skills and expertise. Chavez was a left-populist and Trump is a right-populist, but history seems to show similar outcomes for populists of any type.
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    - vkou 10y ago
      His babble about purging the insiders is all noise. Observe his list of likely cabinet picks.
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TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
That's it. I'm keen to see how Trump evolves as his presidency progresses. Let's see how he goes after the DoD and other TLAs[1] have told him how it's going to be. 1. Three Letter Agencies
tzs 10y ago
Congress has been trying to put restrictions on the DoD prohibiting them from using any money to address climate change. For instance, the Navy wants to start preparing its bases for rising sea levels, but Congress is trying to stop that (the base preparation, that is, not the rising sea levels). So even if the DoD makes some headway in getting Trump to change his mind, Congress will be right there to try to change it back. Considering Trump's history of public statements on climate change, I suspect that Congress will have the easier task in the struggle with the DoD: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/264007296970018816 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26400729697001881... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/264010129106665472 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26401012910666547... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26589529219124838... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/270628609817976834 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/27062860981797683... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/314744479821205505 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/31474447982120550... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/316252016190054400 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/31625201619005440... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/319377285687939072 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Edit: fixed tweet list order so they should be chronological

Exactly. I'm wondering how that circle is going to be squared. It can be done, though.

zanny 10y ago

This is from the man who thinks that US generals are inept and don't understand ISIS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY I'm not sure how hes supposed to give a damn what they say.

barneygumble742 10y ago
I know. In the past whether it was a republican or a democrat administration, they have always taken the counsel of the DOD very seriously. But like many things after this consequential election, the country is in uncharted territory. The US has always had a president with past government leadership or military experience. U.S.C. Article Two, Section 1 needs changes but that won't happen with constitutional purists currently in power.
- api 10y ago
  I've seen lots of comparisons of Trump and Hitler, Mussolini, or Franco. Personally I'm seeing more parallels to Hugo Chavez. Chavez wrecked Venezuela in part by trying to "purge the insiders." That never works. Problem is that the insiders know everything and have all the skills and expertise. Chavez was a left-populist and Trump is a right-populist, but history seems to show similar outcomes for populists of any type.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - vkou 10y ago
    His babble about purging the insiders is all noise. Observe his list of likely cabinet picks.
deleted 10y ago
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TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

That's it. I'm keen to see how Trump evolves as his presidency progresses. Let's see how he goes after the DoD and other TLAs[1] have told him how it's going to be. 1. Three Letter Agencies

tzs 10y ago

Congress has been trying to put restrictions on the DoD prohibiting them from using any money to address climate change. For instance, the Navy wants to start preparing its bases for rising sea levels, but Congress is trying to stop that (the base preparation, that is, not the rising sea levels). So even if the DoD makes some headway in getting Trump to change his mind, Congress will be right there to try to change it back. Considering Trump's history of public statements on climate change, I suspect that Congress will have the easier task in the struggle with the DoD: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/264007296970018816 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26400729697001881... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/264010129106665472 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26401012910666547... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/26589529219124838... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/270628609817976834 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/27062860981797683... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/314744479821205505 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/31474447982120550... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/316252016190054400 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/31625201619005440... https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/319377285687939072 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Edit: fixed tweet list order so they should be chronological