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There's a good summary post on Reddit on evidence for Russian infiltration or influence of Wikileaks: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_

by api 10y ago

There's a good summary post on Reddit on evidence for Russian infiltration or influence of Wikileaks: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wikileaks_staff_despite_our_editor/d9uwctp/?context=10 https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wik... The timeline suggests that Wikileaks was about to try to dump something damaging to Russia and/or Putin (is there a difference at this point?) and then was threatened, backed off, and now may have been folded into Russian intelligence as some kind of asset. I wouldn't be surprised. It's naive to believe that a small volunteer outfit can take on an entire world of pro intelligence agencies. The USA is not the only country that does these things, and many countries such as Russia do so with a much more "gloves off" approach than we do... especially when dealing with civilians. In any case I now see stuff about Trump and Putin communicating prior to Trump taking office, etc., and Putin's politics certainly aligns to some extent with elements of the 'alt-right.' Of course the Bushes have their Saudi "investors" and the Clintons have their Chinese pals, so overseas enmeshment with nations of questionable allegiance to the US is not out of the ordinary in US politics. One of the consequences of empire is that an empire's national politics become everyone else's business too. DC is a world capital, and our elections are world elections.

nyolfen 10y ago
who could discount such pressing corroboration as "There are Phillip Agee vibes from Assange/Wikileaks/Snowden"? maybe make extremely serious and specific allegations when there's actual evidence for it
qb45 10y ago
"We have [compromising materials] about Russia, about your government and businessmen," Mr. Assange told the pro-government daily Izvestia. "But not as much as we'd like... We will publish these materials soon." He then dropped a hint that's likely to be nervously parsed in Russia's corridors of power: "We are helped by the Americans, who pass on a lot of material about Russia," to WikiLeaks, he said. Really? Is it likely that Americans would pass dirt on Russian government to Assange and let him disclose the source? If they wanted to be so open they could as well announce it themselves, I think.

by api 10y ago

nyolfen 10y ago

who could discount such pressing corroboration as "There are Phillip Agee vibes from Assange/Wikileaks/Snowden"? maybe make extremely serious and specific allegations when there's actual evidence for it

qb45 10y ago

"We have [compromising materials] about Russia, about your government and businessmen," Mr. Assange told the pro-government daily Izvestia. "But not as much as we'd like... We will publish these materials soon." He then dropped a hint that's likely to be nervously parsed in Russia's corridors of power: "We are helped by the Americans, who pass on a lot of material about Russia," to WikiLeaks, he said. Really? Is it likely that Americans would pass dirt on Russian government to Assange and let him disclose the source? If they wanted to be so open they could as well announce it themselves, I think.