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> People love having their speech limited, I'm sure this will work out great for twitter. I love having hate speech limited, if that's what you mean.

by croon 10y ago

hermiti 10y ago
The problem with banning hate speech is that it is relative. Next up, books will be banned because they incite alternate opinions.
- beedogs 10y ago
  Yeah... probably not.
  - hermiti 10y ago
    You're right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_governments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_govern...
- croon 10y ago
  Mind sharing an example/hypothetical of it being relative?
- derrickdirge 10y ago
  There's a difference between mere 'alternate opinions' and hateful, prejudiced opinions. It's seems disingenuous for you to conflate them.
  - snerbles 10y ago
    The line between the two varies, and is subject to the whims of whoever controls the platform.
- cwisecarver 10y ago
  The even bigger problem is we're assuming they were banned for "hate" speech because Twitter hasn't even said why yet. If they took down tweets that they felt were hate speech and communicated to the speaker and the community I would be more okay with it. A silent ban of dozens of accounts is their right as a business but I'll still say it's a stupid decision.
- gaius 10y ago
  Bear in mind that some people consider this site to be sexist and racist - check out the #hnwatch hashtag on Twitter. Everyone commenting here "good", consider that as a member of HN, others tar you with the same brush. Still so happy?
  - dictum 10y ago
    > check out the #hnwatch hashtag on Twitter I didn't know that hashtag and was not surprised to see that one of its regular users is someone who likes to use autism as a metaphor for men working in tech.
matwood 10y ago
As long as it is applied consistently. Are they also banning those spewing hate for Trump or the police? It is just like everyone who is rioting with slogans like 'not my President.' These same people were giving Trump a hard time when he said the election system was rigged and didn't enthusiastically say he would support the results of the election. The left is doing a good job reenforcing the exact image many people voted against. The elitist attitude of tolerance unless disagreed with. EDIT Thanks for the downvotes and further proving my point. I would never vote for Trump, but simply pointing out hypocrisy and double standards does get people upset.
altaway 10y ago
There are plain facts about the world which are often considered "hate speech". FBI crime statistics, for example. They gotta be banned to maintain the narrative.

> People love having their speech limited, I'm sure this will work out great for twitter. I love having hate speech limited, if that's what you mean.

by croon 10y ago

> People love having their speech limited, I'm sure this will work out great for twitter. I love having hate speech limited, if that's what you mean.

hermiti 10y ago

The problem with banning hate speech is that it is relative. Next up, books will be banned because they incite alternate opinions.

beedogs 10y ago
Yeah... probably not.
- hermiti 10y ago
  You're right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_governments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_govern...
croon 10y ago
Mind sharing an example/hypothetical of it being relative?
derrickdirge 10y ago
There's a difference between mere 'alternate opinions' and hateful, prejudiced opinions. It's seems disingenuous for you to conflate them.
- snerbles 10y ago
  The line between the two varies, and is subject to the whims of whoever controls the platform.
cwisecarver 10y ago
The even bigger problem is we're assuming they were banned for "hate" speech because Twitter hasn't even said why yet. If they took down tweets that they felt were hate speech and communicated to the speaker and the community I would be more okay with it. A silent ban of dozens of accounts is their right as a business but I'll still say it's a stupid decision.
gaius 10y ago
Bear in mind that some people consider this site to be sexist and racist - check out the #hnwatch hashtag on Twitter. Everyone commenting here "good", consider that as a member of HN, others tar you with the same brush. Still so happy?
- dictum 10y ago
  > check out the #hnwatch hashtag on Twitter I didn't know that hashtag and was not surprised to see that one of its regular users is someone who likes to use autism as a metaphor for men working in tech.

matwood 10y ago

As long as it is applied consistently. Are they also banning those spewing hate for Trump or the police? It is just like everyone who is rioting with slogans like 'not my President.' These same people were giving Trump a hard time when he said the election system was rigged and didn't enthusiastically say he would support the results of the election. The left is doing a good job reenforcing the exact image many people voted against. The elitist attitude of tolerance unless disagreed with. EDIT Thanks for the downvotes and further proving my point. I would never vote for Trump, but simply pointing out hypocrisy and double standards does get people upset.

altaway 10y ago

There are plain facts about the world which are often considered "hate speech". FBI crime statistics, for example. They gotta be banned to maintain the narrative.