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So for German: Our baby is due in January. goes to Unser Baby ist im Januar fällig My German colleagues assure me Google's neural network needs a bit more t

So for German: Our baby is due in January. goes to Unser Baby ist im Januar fällig My German colleagues assure me Google's neural network needs a bit more training on that one. I often use Google Translate to go back from the German I have (badly) created to English, as a further check that it's somewhat understandable. In terms of it replacing asking real humans for help... I think it's still a long way away, but good to see Google investing in it.

bergjs 10y ago
> Unser Baby ist im Januar fällig Freely translated: "Our baby is going down in January."
mda 10y ago
In my tests it gave better results for longer sentences with more context.
lorenzhs 10y ago
It clearly failed on context there - "fällig" does mean "due", but when referring to an invoice. "due" isn't used for baby delivery dates in German, the sentence would be structured differently, probably something like "Unser Baby kommt im Januar" (literally "our baby is coming in January"). That's exactly the kind of thing I hoped this new model would catch, but apparently that's still a bit too much to expect.
anselm_eickhoff 10y ago
This one is actually not too bad - there is only a very slight difference between "due" (which can mean both something like "shall be done" and "bound to happen") and "fällig" (which means only "shall be done"). Grammatically and semantically, this almost never matters, it only misses the much higher cultural context of it being slightly weird to refer to a baby as a "task".
detaro 10y ago
At least it's clearly understandable and grammatically correct, and only a slightly odd (distant) phrasing. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I heard someone saying it exactly like that in an off-the-cuff remark. Interestingly I wouldn't know how to translate the German back to English while preserving the feel of the phrasing. Languages just don't map 1:1.
- acqq 10y ago
  The baby is "fällig" maybe could be "back"-translated (from that translation) to English carrying the sense of the awkwardness as "Our baby is being scheduled for January" which maybe brings some "huh?" But I'm not a native speaker, I'm just trying to get an opinion of these who are.
pantalaimon 10y ago
German here, I don't find that translation odd at all, maybe a bit colloquial but I could totally imagine someone saying that.
- cygx 10y ago
  German here, I don't find that translation odd at all Just as another data point, I do. I'd only use it sarcastically, like Und, wann ist denn der kleine Scheißer fällig?

bergjs 10y ago

> Unser Baby ist im Januar fällig Freely translated: "Our baby is going down in January."

mda 10y ago

In my tests it gave better results for longer sentences with more context.

lorenzhs 10y ago

It clearly failed on context there - "fällig" does mean "due", but when referring to an invoice. "due" isn't used for baby delivery dates in German, the sentence would be structured differently, probably something like "Unser Baby kommt im Januar" (literally "our baby is coming in January"). That's exactly the kind of thing I hoped this new model would catch, but apparently that's still a bit too much to expect.

anselm_eickhoff 10y ago

This one is actually not too bad - there is only a very slight difference between "due" (which can mean both something like "shall be done" and "bound to happen") and "fällig" (which means only "shall be done"). Grammatically and semantically, this almost never matters, it only misses the much higher cultural context of it being slightly weird to refer to a baby as a "task".

detaro 10y ago

At least it's clearly understandable and grammatically correct, and only a slightly odd (distant) phrasing. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I heard someone saying it exactly like that in an off-the-cuff remark. Interestingly I wouldn't know how to translate the German back to English while preserving the feel of the phrasing. Languages just don't map 1:1.

acqq 10y ago
The baby is "fällig" maybe could be "back"-translated (from that translation) to English carrying the sense of the awkwardness as "Our baby is being scheduled for January" which maybe brings some "huh?" But I'm not a native speaker, I'm just trying to get an opinion of these who are.

pantalaimon 10y ago

German here, I don't find that translation odd at all, maybe a bit colloquial but I could totally imagine someone saying that.

cygx 10y ago
German here, I don't find that translation odd at all Just as another data point, I do. I'd only use it sarcastically, like Und, wann ist denn der kleine Scheißer fällig?