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You can include a header in your email message where, if a user marks a message as spam, Gmail / Hotmail / whatever will let you know.
by breakingcups 10y ago
You can include a header in your email message where, if a user marks a message as spam, Gmail / Hotmail / whatever will let you know.
- tgb 10y agoWhy do they do that? Seems great for this use-case but terrible information to give bad actors.
- TheHegemon 10y agoWould make sense to prevent themselves to be marked as spam in the future.
- openasocket 10y agoidk, I'm trying to find a way a bad actor could take advantage of that information. Kind of helpful for spammers to get a sense of what does and does not get marked, but they can just see how many people clicked the link.
- jobu 10y agoIn the past (10+ years ago), clicking the Unsubscribe link in a spam email was a sure way to get your email address sold to every spammer out there. Most of those bad actors seem to have been weeded out, but some still might try it.
- secretRubyDev 10y agoWhen I've usually clicked the report spam and unsubscribe button after reporting spam in gmail it usually immediately opens a tab with the unsubscribe URL. I've since stopped doing it since the last thing I want to do is open up some random page belonging to the person who spammed me.
- jazoom 10y agoThat's strange. I thought the point of that button was to overcome the exact problem you just described.
- secretRubyDev 10y agoTried it again with a different message and they said they'd try to unsubscribe me this time instead of opening a link. Did try again yesterday with a different spam message and had it open a tab though; Zapier was spamming me with some newsletter so I clicked "Report Spam and Unsubcribe" yesterday and it opened up this in a new tab: https://zapier.com/app/settings/email?payload=REMOVED https://zapier.com/app/settings/email?payload=REMOVED Not really sure how it determines that -- I'll probably avoid clicking it just out of precaution and just report spam going forward though.
- rolandog 10y agoUsing a lot of the privacy and security measures suggested in https://www.privacytools.io/ https://www.privacytools.io/ I sometimes do a gmail search using 'is:unread in:all unsubscribe' and click on most of the links I can find. In some cases, Gmail automatically detects the unsubscribe link. If you click Gmail's unsubscribe link, it may give you a pop-up or it may automatically write an email to unsubscribe@example.com. The pop-up usually leads to a form that you have to fill to 'update your newsletter preferences'.
- gus_massa 10y agoMany times when you hit the spam button, gmail ask if you want to "only mark as spam" or "mark as spam & unsubscribe".
- taco_emoji 10y agoWhat information does this reveal besides your email address, which they clearly already have?
- techdmn 10y agoIt confirms that the address is valid, and most likely attended by a real person.
- angry-hacker 10y agoBut there are gazillion email leaks. Go scrape them all with hashed passwords. Active emails have no value.
- brazzledazzle 10y agoYou're right that they don't have value but there's still plenty of idiots out there buying and selling useless lists and while they're worthless they have a cost to us as recipients since we have to mark them as spam and delete them.
- smsm42 10y agoLeaks may have emails that are defunct, belong to dormant accounts nobody reads, throwaway accounts like mailinator.com, honeypots, etc. This confirms the account belongs to a real human actively reading the email.
- pbhjpbhj 10y agoIt's a feedback signal showing success at passing automated spam filters.
- ori_b 10y agoIt reveals that their email was detected as spam by an intelligent piece of meat instead of a shard of silicon.
- yAnonymous 10y agoEmail lists with verified activity have a higher success rate and sell for more.
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