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> Nintendo is quite different > Nintendo always starts with the same goal, coming up with a new way to play As a game developer this comes across as quite the

> Nintendo is quite different > Nintendo always starts with the same goal, coming up with a new way to play As a game developer this comes across as quite the Nintendo propaganda video. Nintendo games are the least innovative things I have ever played, as they simply recreate their popular IPs over and over again (mario, zelda, pokemon etc) with somewhat better/different graphics. The only reason they are where they are today is the original games were released at the right time (timing + luck), and people continue to buy the sequels today out of nostalgia.

sgift 10y ago
I look at majoras mask and see a Zelda that's completely different from the other Zeldas (and yes, there are more examples, that's just the most obvious), so no, Nintendo doesn't recreate their popular IPs, but actually produces new experiences based on them.
- nicky0 10y ago
  More than any other game, Majora's mask still sticks in my memory. Hauntingly. I'd love to find time to play it again some time.
toast0 10y ago
If they're trying to innovate on gameplay, it makes sense that they reuse existing characters as much as possible. Super Mario 64 was an exploration of platform games in 3d: it doesn't require Mario, but he's a very good fit. On the other hand, some of their games have new characters, Splatoon is pretty much new characters (except maybe the squid guy from Mario Brothers?)
- joezydeco 10y ago
  Splatoon was briefly considered as a Mario game: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-considered-making-splatoon-a-mario-game/1100-6422026/ http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-considered-making-...
  - AdmiralAsshat 10y ago
    Not too surprising. I mean if you think about it, Super Mario Sunshine was basically a single-player Splatoon prototype.
grillvogel 10y ago
sounds like you are a game developer who places more importance on things other than the gameplay. so not really a game developer.
bobajeff 10y ago
This is very true. There are very few new game series from Nintendo with rich worlds in them. Wii Sports is just Miis put into sports settings. Splatoon is just generic looking characters put into different arenas. Animal Crossing is avatars put in farms or whatever. Pikmin is just one generic spaceman and billions of little colorcoded plant people. Nothing they make outside of sequels and spinoffs have much in the way of rich worlds in them. And even those are just reusing old content from earlier games. (Oh wow now we can have the tanooki suite again! Oh wow now we can play as a evil purple-colored baby version of mario!)
- grillvogel 10y ago
  do you understand what a game is? you seem to be dismissing all of these nintendo games based on surface details unrelated to the game itself. "wii sports is just Miis put into sports settings" what is bad about this? the game itself is very enjoyable and was a worldwide sensation. what was wii sports supposed to be? not every game needs to be an open world adventure starring a bald man who's wife and child were brutally murdered.
  - bobajeff 10y ago
    I'm not dismissing the games. Not every game has to have a rich world. But there is a obvious change in the level of work they put into rich new content compared to their NES/SNES days. What happened? Who knows. But it's definitely noticeable.

sgift 10y ago

I look at majoras mask and see a Zelda that's completely different from the other Zeldas (and yes, there are more examples, that's just the most obvious), so no, Nintendo doesn't recreate their popular IPs, but actually produces new experiences based on them.

nicky0 10y ago
More than any other game, Majora's mask still sticks in my memory. Hauntingly. I'd love to find time to play it again some time.

toast0 10y ago

If they're trying to innovate on gameplay, it makes sense that they reuse existing characters as much as possible. Super Mario 64 was an exploration of platform games in 3d: it doesn't require Mario, but he's a very good fit. On the other hand, some of their games have new characters, Splatoon is pretty much new characters (except maybe the squid guy from Mario Brothers?)

joezydeco 10y ago
Splatoon was briefly considered as a Mario game: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-considered-making-splatoon-a-mario-game/1100-6422026/ http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-considered-making-...
- AdmiralAsshat 10y ago
  Not too surprising. I mean if you think about it, Super Mario Sunshine was basically a single-player Splatoon prototype.

grillvogel 10y ago

sounds like you are a game developer who places more importance on things other than the gameplay. so not really a game developer.

bobajeff 10y ago

This is very true. There are very few new game series from Nintendo with rich worlds in them. Wii Sports is just Miis put into sports settings. Splatoon is just generic looking characters put into different arenas. Animal Crossing is avatars put in farms or whatever. Pikmin is just one generic spaceman and billions of little colorcoded plant people. Nothing they make outside of sequels and spinoffs have much in the way of rich worlds in them. And even those are just reusing old content from earlier games. (Oh wow now we can have the tanooki suite again! Oh wow now we can play as a evil purple-colored baby version of mario!)

grillvogel 10y ago
do you understand what a game is? you seem to be dismissing all of these nintendo games based on surface details unrelated to the game itself. "wii sports is just Miis put into sports settings" what is bad about this? the game itself is very enjoyable and was a worldwide sensation. what was wii sports supposed to be? not every game needs to be an open world adventure starring a bald man who's wife and child were brutally murdered.
- bobajeff 10y ago
  I'm not dismissing the games. Not every game has to have a rich world. But there is a obvious change in the level of work they put into rich new content compared to their NES/SNES days. What happened? Who knows. But it's definitely noticeable.