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"They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" Take a look[1] you may have been stranded on an Island the last 2 years and perhaps you did not hear what Trump have

"They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" Take a look[1] you may have been stranded on an Island the last 2 years and perhaps you did not hear what Trump have said. Now, not all Trump supporters are racists (maybe Thiel isn't? who knows!), but all of them are telling us implicitly that racism and bigotry are not deal breakers. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zvOZ17eSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37zvOZ17eSE

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BurningFrog 10y ago
Note that this Trump (mis)quote is in response to asking where Thiel says anything that supports bigotry.
- betolink 10y ago
  Corrected now, unless I didn't hear right when he refers to Mexico sending people over and then "they are rapists" perhaps his subject changed and he was referring to Aliens?
  - BurningFrog 10y ago
    He is, at least technically, making a more sophisticated argument. I'll rephrase it to make that reading clear: "Like all countries, Mexico has both great people and rapists/murderers. Unfortunately, the latter group is overrepresented among those illegally in this country." That's (technically) the point he's making, and it's (technically) not racist.
    - late2part 10y ago
      Can you refute the statistical assertion Trump is making in that statement?
gohrt 10y ago
Trump said that illegal immigrants are "rapists and murderers and some good people", "not their best people". You can disagree strongly with Trump's claims about what motivates illegal immigration, but Trump's stated view is not racist: he discriminated between two groups within a single race, and did not distinguish between races.
- colemickens 10y ago
  This is some amazing mental gymnastics here, wew. ""White people are racist, ignorant assholes, except for some of them."" ^^ I'm sure this comment will do well!
  - adventured 10y ago
    Variations of that statement are commonly being written or voiced in the mainstream media post election. So apparently it does do well. Van Jones, on national TV, called it "whitelash" and openly described Trump's election as a racist response to Obama's Presidency. The post election has been one mainstream media tirade after another about the racist white voters.
  - andrewchambers 10y ago
    That is so wrong, a better quote would be: "The illegal French immigrants are ignorant assholes, except for some of them". The key differences are - Not all, the illegal immigrants. And Mexican, like French is a Nationality and not a race.
    - atomi 10y ago
      The alt-right gained most of it's momentum during Trump's campaign. You think that's a coincidence? And this, "it's a nationality not a race' is hardly a good reason to denigrate an entire people.
      - andrewchambers 10y ago
        People keep saying he denigrated all mexicans... He didn't, he denigrated illegal immigrants. Unless you are implying all Mexicans are illegal immigrants? I don't even like trump but this kind of nonsense makes me defend him.
skoopie 10y ago
Can you tell me which specific Mexicans he was talking about?
- Chris2048 10y ago
  Specifically the rapists.
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Chris2048 10y ago
> "They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" Actually "they’re not sending their best" explicitly doesn't mean "Mexicans" (i.e all/any Mexicans). As such, that should be: > "They(some Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" http://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-check-livewire/fact-check-donald-trump-not-call-mexicans-rapists-criminals/ http://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-...

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BurningFrog 10y ago

Note that this Trump (mis)quote is in response to asking where Thiel says anything that supports bigotry.

betolink 10y ago
Corrected now, unless I didn't hear right when he refers to Mexico sending people over and then "they are rapists" perhaps his subject changed and he was referring to Aliens?
- BurningFrog 10y ago
  He is, at least technically, making a more sophisticated argument. I'll rephrase it to make that reading clear: "Like all countries, Mexico has both great people and rapists/murderers. Unfortunately, the latter group is overrepresented among those illegally in this country." That's (technically) the point he's making, and it's (technically) not racist.
  - late2part 10y ago
    Can you refute the statistical assertion Trump is making in that statement?

gohrt 10y ago

Trump said that illegal immigrants are "rapists and murderers and some good people", "not their best people". You can disagree strongly with Trump's claims about what motivates illegal immigration, but Trump's stated view is not racist: he discriminated between two groups within a single race, and did not distinguish between races.

colemickens 10y ago
This is some amazing mental gymnastics here, wew. ""White people are racist, ignorant assholes, except for some of them."" ^^ I'm sure this comment will do well!
- adventured 10y ago
  Variations of that statement are commonly being written or voiced in the mainstream media post election. So apparently it does do well. Van Jones, on national TV, called it "whitelash" and openly described Trump's election as a racist response to Obama's Presidency. The post election has been one mainstream media tirade after another about the racist white voters.
- andrewchambers 10y ago
  That is so wrong, a better quote would be: "The illegal French immigrants are ignorant assholes, except for some of them". The key differences are - Not all, the illegal immigrants. And Mexican, like French is a Nationality and not a race.
  - atomi 10y ago
    The alt-right gained most of it's momentum during Trump's campaign. You think that's a coincidence? And this, "it's a nationality not a race' is hardly a good reason to denigrate an entire people.
    - andrewchambers 10y ago
      People keep saying he denigrated all mexicans... He didn't, he denigrated illegal immigrants. Unless you are implying all Mexicans are illegal immigrants? I don't even like trump but this kind of nonsense makes me defend him.

skoopie 10y ago

Can you tell me which specific Mexicans he was talking about?

Chris2048 10y ago
Specifically the rapists.

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Chris2048 10y ago

> "They(Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" Actually "they’re not sending their best" explicitly doesn't mean "Mexicans" (i.e all/any Mexicans). As such, that should be: > "They(some Mexicans) are rapists and murderers" http://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-check-livewire/fact-check-donald-trump-not-call-mexicans-rapists-criminals/ http://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-...