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The thing you learn in stock trading is that you never rue missed/mistaken investments. Otherwise you will spend all the time doing this :)

by ErrantX 17y ago

scotty79 17y ago
I guess the point of this comparison is showing what's smarter: investing or buying junk.
- alextgordon 17y ago
  Buying junk, clearly. I'm guaranteed to get considerable value out of a computer, whereas $2000 of Apple shares could well have been worthless.
  - scotty79 17y ago
    Try squeezing considerable value out of your iPod. It's much more likely that it will squeeze value out of you. You are still better off with 0 dollars in worthless stock.
    - ErrantX 17y ago
      I think that's disingenuous; and is the same point pg makes when he explains that wealth != money. Take me for example; my nano has barely left my side for the last 2 and a bit years - I work best with music around :) it's worth a lot.
      - scotty79 17y ago
        And the beer I drink also improves my coding skills, and the coffee and the nicotine. Stop trying to pass your costly and possibly damaging addiction as something that improves your life and brings you value. I guess I'm asking to get heavily down-voted but I'm not all that into music. I know some coders that can't work without radio but radio is a torture for me when I try to concentrate. I even read about one guy that thinks that he codes best when he has TV on (spidweb guy, you have to give it to him that he makes amazing stuff all by himself, but I personally think he would have no problem concentrating with pack of buffaloes running over his body). I tried once coding with TV on and I lasted a minute before It drove me nuts. I can bear songs if they are in language I don't understand. I know that some people have better or worse resistance for distractions but I can't believe that some people concentrate better with distractions than without them.
        Groxx 17y ago
        I can't believe that some people concentrate better with distractions than without them. Personally, I last 2 or 3 times longer when doing anything mental if I have music playing. Easily. I'm also happier. Trying to pass your beliefs off as our experiences is doomed to failure. There's always an exception, often millions of them, if you look around a different corner than you live on.
        scotty79 17y ago
        Substitute music with drink and imagine that your job is a doctor. I'm just trying to point out that there is a possibility (a bit far fetch I agree) that listening to the music while you work is kind of mind numbing mild drug that maybe helps you to suffer through the drudgery of workday but it might be harmful to your ability to concentrate and the value of your work.
        ErrantX 17y ago
        Oh man, I thought you had a valid argument - though one I disagreed with - till the last two comments. Basically your argument has become along the lines of: you don't like music and therefore anyone that does has a "problem". I personally can't comprehend people who work in silence! But I'm not judging people who do; just as music works for me, silence works for others. You've assumed silence can't be a distraction which, from my perspective, is wrong. > Stop trying to pass your costly and possibly damaging addiction as something that improves your life and brings you value. All in all you lost me at that... how rude.
        matwood 17y ago
        Drinks != music. Alcohol is known to slow reaction time and cognitive skills. Instead of substituting music with drinks how about wonder if doctors also listen to music while they work. When I was pre-med (prior to becoming compsci) I went and observed a few surgeries. The surgeons were some of the most focused, professional people I've ever met and they had music playing in the OR. Go figure.
        Tuna-Fish 17y ago

The thing you learn in stock trading is that you never rue missed/mistaken investments. Otherwise you will spend all the time doing this :)

by ErrantX 17y ago

The thing you learn in stock trading is that you never rue missed/mistaken investments. Otherwise you will spend all the time doing this :)

scotty79 17y ago

I guess the point of this comparison is showing what's smarter: investing or buying junk.

alextgordon 17y ago
Buying junk, clearly. I'm guaranteed to get considerable value out of a computer, whereas $2000 of Apple shares could well have been worthless.
- scotty79 17y ago
  Try squeezing considerable value out of your iPod. It's much more likely that it will squeeze value out of you. You are still better off with 0 dollars in worthless stock.
  - ErrantX 17y ago
    I think that's disingenuous; and is the same point pg makes when he explains that wealth != money. Take me for example; my nano has barely left my side for the last 2 and a bit years - I work best with music around :) it's worth a lot.
    - scotty79 17y ago
      And the beer I drink also improves my coding skills, and the coffee and the nicotine. Stop trying to pass your costly and possibly damaging addiction as something that improves your life and brings you value. I guess I'm asking to get heavily down-voted but I'm not all that into music. I know some coders that can't work without radio but radio is a torture for me when I try to concentrate. I even read about one guy that thinks that he codes best when he has TV on (spidweb guy, you have to give it to him that he makes amazing stuff all by himself, but I personally think he would have no problem concentrating with pack of buffaloes running over his body). I tried once coding with TV on and I lasted a minute before It drove me nuts. I can bear songs if they are in language I don't understand. I know that some people have better or worse resistance for distractions but I can't believe that some people concentrate better with distractions than without them.
      - Groxx 17y ago
        I can't believe that some people concentrate better with distractions than without them. Personally, I last 2 or 3 times longer when doing anything mental if I have music playing. Easily. I'm also happier. Trying to pass your beliefs off as our experiences is doomed to failure. There's always an exception, often millions of them, if you look around a different corner than you live on.
        scotty79 17y ago
        Substitute music with drink and imagine that your job is a doctor. I'm just trying to point out that there is a possibility (a bit far fetch I agree) that listening to the music while you work is kind of mind numbing mild drug that maybe helps you to suffer through the drudgery of workday but it might be harmful to your ability to concentrate and the value of your work.
        ErrantX 17y ago
        Oh man, I thought you had a valid argument - though one I disagreed with - till the last two comments. Basically your argument has become along the lines of: you don't like music and therefore anyone that does has a "problem". I personally can't comprehend people who work in silence! But I'm not judging people who do; just as music works for me, silence works for others. You've assumed silence can't be a distraction which, from my perspective, is wrong. > Stop trying to pass your costly and possibly damaging addiction as something that improves your life and brings you value. All in all you lost me at that... how rude.
        matwood 17y ago
        Drinks != music. Alcohol is known to slow reaction time and cognitive skills. Instead of substituting music with drinks how about wonder if doctors also listen to music while they work. When I was pre-med (prior to becoming compsci) I went and observed a few surgeries. The surgeons were some of the most focused, professional people I've ever met and they had music playing in the OR. Go figure.
      - Tuna-Fish 17y ago