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I think people are tired of political correctness and left wing (or so called liberals if you will) stealing the fruits of hard work of the people in form of ta

by elcct 10y ago

I think people are tired of political correctness and left wing (or so called liberals if you will) stealing the fruits of hard work of the people in form of taxes and regulations and pushing "equality" agenda at all cost. People are not equal.

chillacy 10y ago
That's funny, because you could also see this as the result of working class citizens without skills which would have made them valuable in the new global economy, vote for trade protections which would allow them to keep their manufacturing jobs. Also: > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
api 10y ago
On the contrary I see inequality as a driver here. Working class people have become considerably more un-equal as a result of globalization and other policies, and a lot of that anger is boiling over.
pmarreck 10y ago
> People are not equal. And yet, the right would have you believe that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge (RIP Asimov). Because you are just an elitist educated librul, and how can you even breathe the thought that you're better than me in any way, shape, or form, especially when it comes to making important decisions that demand critical evaluation of a lot of evidence? I have a family and mouths to feed and can only afford 1 i-Whatever for the whole family, I don't hang out on Twitter or Facebook and only have time to listen to catchy patriotic slogans. But hey, I sure as hell took the time to come out of the mysteriously dark woodwork and voted yesterday! I guess all that effort I made to keep an at-risk youth out of prison and get him into college was pointless.
- ryanx435 10y ago
  Its ignorant for you to assume that people on the right are ignorant and honestly the attitude of people like you were one of the driving forces of me supporting and voting for trump. Here I am, working as a software engineer, with a BS in computer science, fluent in multiple languages, able to criticaly evaluate evidence in order to make decisions, and just as educated as you are, and you automatically assume that just because I'm on the right I am ignorant. Its people like you that have poisoned the well of society.
  - grzm 10y ago
    "Its people like you that have poisoned the well of society." There's a lot of heated discussion. Regardless of who won, this was always going to be a large population of people who were going to be disappointed if not strongly upset by the result. The polarized atmosphere makes discussion very difficult. Language like this makes it even harder for people to hear what you're trying to say. You're actively engaged in the discussion, which is great! We all need to work to improve the situation and make it constructive.
    - ryanx435 10y ago
      >You're actively engaged in the discussion, which is great! please stop talking to me like i'm a child. its condescending and doesn't "work to improve the situation and make it constructive."
      - grzm 10y ago
        I'm sorry you took it that way. That wasn't my intent. I honestly want people to be able to talk with one another in a way that actually makes a difference. Insulting people and using inflammatory language just causes people to stop listening and dig in. It doesn't change people's minds. Ignoring the tone, do you think the content of what I wrote is constructive or useful? If so, how would you choose to convey the same message?
        ryanx435 10y ago

by elcct 10y ago

chillacy 10y ago

That's funny, because you could also see this as the result of working class citizens without skills which would have made them valuable in the new global economy, vote for trade protections which would allow them to keep their manufacturing jobs. Also: > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

api 10y ago

On the contrary I see inequality as a driver here. Working class people have become considerably more un-equal as a result of globalization and other policies, and a lot of that anger is boiling over.

pmarreck 10y ago

> People are not equal. And yet, the right would have you believe that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge (RIP Asimov). Because you are just an elitist educated librul, and how can you even breathe the thought that you're better than me in any way, shape, or form, especially when it comes to making important decisions that demand critical evaluation of a lot of evidence? I have a family and mouths to feed and can only afford 1 i-Whatever for the whole family, I don't hang out on Twitter or Facebook and only have time to listen to catchy patriotic slogans. But hey, I sure as hell took the time to come out of the mysteriously dark woodwork and voted yesterday! I guess all that effort I made to keep an at-risk youth out of prison and get him into college was pointless.

ryanx435 10y ago
Its ignorant for you to assume that people on the right are ignorant and honestly the attitude of people like you were one of the driving forces of me supporting and voting for trump. Here I am, working as a software engineer, with a BS in computer science, fluent in multiple languages, able to criticaly evaluate evidence in order to make decisions, and just as educated as you are, and you automatically assume that just because I'm on the right I am ignorant. Its people like you that have poisoned the well of society.
- grzm 10y ago
  "Its people like you that have poisoned the well of society." There's a lot of heated discussion. Regardless of who won, this was always going to be a large population of people who were going to be disappointed if not strongly upset by the result. The polarized atmosphere makes discussion very difficult. Language like this makes it even harder for people to hear what you're trying to say. You're actively engaged in the discussion, which is great! We all need to work to improve the situation and make it constructive.
  - ryanx435 10y ago
    >You're actively engaged in the discussion, which is great! please stop talking to me like i'm a child. its condescending and doesn't "work to improve the situation and make it constructive."
    - grzm 10y ago
      I'm sorry you took it that way. That wasn't my intent. I honestly want people to be able to talk with one another in a way that actually makes a difference. Insulting people and using inflammatory language just causes people to stop listening and dig in. It doesn't change people's minds. Ignoring the tone, do you think the content of what I wrote is constructive or useful? If so, how would you choose to convey the same message?
      - ryanx435 10y ago