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> Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump Until now I thought that wasn't a bad strategy against Trump as he had said and done so m

> Hillary focused her entire campaign on why people should stop Trump Until now I thought that wasn't a bad strategy against Trump as he had said and done so many repulsive things far far beyond what I would of thought the voting population would of tolerated. For example, "grabbing women by the p*y" I would of thought would have alienated the entire female voting population. For some reason, some women voters seemed to of tolerated this. It should of been easy win for Hilary.

BryantD 10y ago
Yeah, this is a lot of why I am rejecting the easy answers. John Edwards was one of the most populist Democratic candidates we've seen in a while, and his political career ended because he had an affair. I can't really blame anyone for thinking that Trump's sexual misadventures would be a serious weakness.
- brandnewlow 10y ago
  I think this analysis is incorrect. Edwards' affair was a problem because it told people he wasn't a trustworthy or professional guy. He brought his mistress along on the campaign trail. Meanwhile he depicted himself as a standup guy. It outed him as a phony with bad judgement.
gaius 10y ago
But consider, "got 'em by the balls" is a commonly used expression. If Hillary had said that she had got Col Ghaddafi "by the balls" no-one would have batted an eyelid. It certainly would not have alienated the entire male voting population. The double standard meant that focussing on this one line, undermined Hillary's campaign.
- maket 10y ago
  "Got 'em by the balls" is a colloquialism and if Clinton were to use it, she wouldn't be using it in the same sexual context of Trump's comments.
- SerLava 10y ago
  If you're unfamiliar with the context, Trump was actually talking about grabbing women. This is a false equivalence- Hillary would have to say that she wanted to "walk up to ghaddafi and open-hand grab his testicles" for this to be a proper analogy.
  - kasey_junk 10y ago
    Worse than that, she would have had to say that she did walk up to ghaddafi and open-hand grab his testicles.
    - breatheoften 10y ago
      And that she did it so that she could enjoy the feeling of those balls without care for gadhaffi's feelings -- and replace gadhaffi with "any man, including those for whom subjugation is unlikely to be generally seen as deserved"
      - gaius 10y ago
        If only mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport...
- CocaKoala 10y ago
  The objectionable thing about the "grab them by the pussy" tape is NOT that Trump dared to use the word "pussy" in a private conversation that ended up being recorded. The objectionable thing is that it indicates that Trump has, on multiple occasions, grabbed women's genitalia without their consent, purely because he's a celebrity and nobody stops him. If Hillary had said that she had gotten Col. Ghaddafi "by the balls", I agree that nobody would have batted an eyelid because everybody would have understood that she was not discussing a situation in which she habitually sexually assaulted men and was able to get away with it because she was the Secretary of State.
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BryantD 10y ago

Yeah, this is a lot of why I am rejecting the easy answers. John Edwards was one of the most populist Democratic candidates we've seen in a while, and his political career ended because he had an affair. I can't really blame anyone for thinking that Trump's sexual misadventures would be a serious weakness.

brandnewlow 10y ago
I think this analysis is incorrect. Edwards' affair was a problem because it told people he wasn't a trustworthy or professional guy. He brought his mistress along on the campaign trail. Meanwhile he depicted himself as a standup guy. It outed him as a phony with bad judgement.

gaius 10y ago

But consider, "got 'em by the balls" is a commonly used expression. If Hillary had said that she had got Col Ghaddafi "by the balls" no-one would have batted an eyelid. It certainly would not have alienated the entire male voting population. The double standard meant that focussing on this one line, undermined Hillary's campaign.

maket 10y ago
"Got 'em by the balls" is a colloquialism and if Clinton were to use it, she wouldn't be using it in the same sexual context of Trump's comments.
SerLava 10y ago
If you're unfamiliar with the context, Trump was actually talking about grabbing women. This is a false equivalence- Hillary would have to say that she wanted to "walk up to ghaddafi and open-hand grab his testicles" for this to be a proper analogy.
- kasey_junk 10y ago
  Worse than that, she would have had to say that she did walk up to ghaddafi and open-hand grab his testicles.
  - breatheoften 10y ago
    And that she did it so that she could enjoy the feeling of those balls without care for gadhaffi's feelings -- and replace gadhaffi with "any man, including those for whom subjugation is unlikely to be generally seen as deserved"
    - gaius 10y ago
      If only mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport...
CocaKoala 10y ago
The objectionable thing about the "grab them by the pussy" tape is NOT that Trump dared to use the word "pussy" in a private conversation that ended up being recorded. The objectionable thing is that it indicates that Trump has, on multiple occasions, grabbed women's genitalia without their consent, purely because he's a celebrity and nobody stops him. If Hillary had said that she had gotten Col. Ghaddafi "by the balls", I agree that nobody would have batted an eyelid because everybody would have understood that she was not discussing a situation in which she habitually sexually assaulted men and was able to get away with it because she was the Secretary of State.
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