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I am assuming that's why the cable is so short. If it was long enough to connect it to the console, it would be awkwardly long when connecting it to a controlle

by ihuman 10y ago

I am assuming that's why the cable is so short. If it was long enough to connect it to the console, it would be awkwardly long when connecting it to a controller you place next to you.

mikewhy 10y ago
I'd take awkwardly long over awkwardly short any day, the excess can be coiled and tied. If the WiiMote paired with the NES Classic then it wouldn't be so much of an issue. Keeping the cords short because they can be used with a controller that neither comes or works with the system is a bit misguided.
pbhjpbhj 10y ago
If only there were a way to make a short cable longer when needed. If they ever invent it I'll be able to mow my whole lawn.
- ihuman 10y ago
  There is one. Time to mow the lawn before the rest of the leaves fall. http://nyko.com/collections/nes-classic-edition/products/extend-link-for-nes-classic-edition http://nyko.com/collections/nes-classic-edition/products/ext...
  - ant6n 10y ago
    How many of these can be used in sequence?
    - dogma1138 10y ago
      Quite a bit, each foot does add latency tho, if you switch from a 3 foot cable to a 10-12 one it can actually be noticeable.
      - jleahy 10y ago
        What nonsense, an extra 9ft of cable is ~14ns (given it's completely passive). A human would struggle to detect 14ms (6 orders of magnitude difference) and it'll be completely swamped by polling latency.
        dogma1138 10y ago
        1A current in a standard 10 gauge wire has a drift velocity of 23m/s, the wave propagation is dependant on quite a few other factors. The SNES controller is on a 20mA loop, with short to ground IIRC and the wire is likely to be 18 or 20 gauge, the velocity is still not nearly as high as you think, since the loop is interrupted you also have a delay on the sense line. Overall a 30ft cable adds about 2-3ms of latency to the controller...
        mikeash 10y ago
        Drift velocity is irrelevant. Changes in the electric field propagate at nearly the speed of light. The fact that it's happening in a wire slows it down a little bit, but it's still measured in nanoseconds, not milliseconds.
        saulrh 10y ago
        Drift velocity is unrelated to signal propagation. Otherwise it'd take entire days for packets to cross the country to get to you, which is clearly not the case. If we want to take an analogy, signal propagation is like a sound wave in the electromagnetic field inside the conductor; in real air, the speed of sound is clearly faster than the wind.
        shermanyo 10y ago
        > in real air, the speed of sound is clearly faster than the wind I love when HN users give such simple, real world analogies that are so easy to visualize or relate to. For those of us from completely different fields, it really does nail down the concept. always appreciated :)
        10y ago

by ihuman 10y ago

I am assuming that's why the cable is so short. If it was long enough to connect it to the console, it would be awkwardly long when connecting it to a controller you place next to you.

mikewhy 10y ago

I'd take awkwardly long over awkwardly short any day, the excess can be coiled and tied. If the WiiMote paired with the NES Classic then it wouldn't be so much of an issue. Keeping the cords short because they can be used with a controller that neither comes or works with the system is a bit misguided.

pbhjpbhj 10y ago

If only there were a way to make a short cable longer when needed. If they ever invent it I'll be able to mow my whole lawn.

ihuman 10y ago
There is one. Time to mow the lawn before the rest of the leaves fall. http://nyko.com/collections/nes-classic-edition/products/extend-link-for-nes-classic-edition http://nyko.com/collections/nes-classic-edition/products/ext...
- ant6n 10y ago
  How many of these can be used in sequence?
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    Quite a bit, each foot does add latency tho, if you switch from a 3 foot cable to a 10-12 one it can actually be noticeable.
    - jleahy 10y ago
      What nonsense, an extra 9ft of cable is ~14ns (given it's completely passive). A human would struggle to detect 14ms (6 orders of magnitude difference) and it'll be completely swamped by polling latency.
      - dogma1138 10y ago
        1A current in a standard 10 gauge wire has a drift velocity of 23m/s, the wave propagation is dependant on quite a few other factors. The SNES controller is on a 20mA loop, with short to ground IIRC and the wire is likely to be 18 or 20 gauge, the velocity is still not nearly as high as you think, since the loop is interrupted you also have a delay on the sense line. Overall a 30ft cable adds about 2-3ms of latency to the controller...
        mikeash 10y ago
        Drift velocity is irrelevant. Changes in the electric field propagate at nearly the speed of light. The fact that it's happening in a wire slows it down a little bit, but it's still measured in nanoseconds, not milliseconds.
        saulrh 10y ago
        Drift velocity is unrelated to signal propagation. Otherwise it'd take entire days for packets to cross the country to get to you, which is clearly not the case. If we want to take an analogy, signal propagation is like a sound wave in the electromagnetic field inside the conductor; in real air, the speed of sound is clearly faster than the wind.
        shermanyo 10y ago
        > in real air, the speed of sound is clearly faster than the wind I love when HN users give such simple, real world analogies that are so easy to visualize or relate to. For those of us from completely different fields, it really does nail down the concept. always appreciated :)
        10y ago