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> The biggest limitation is cross-country travel. While Tesla has its Supercharger network to power some long trips, it's harder to guarantee that you can drive

> The biggest limitation is cross-country travel. While Tesla has its Supercharger network to power some long trips, it's harder to guarantee that you can drive coast-to-coast in other EVs. How is this relevant? Most Americans will do this once or twice in their whole life.

codeulike 10y ago
They are using coast to coast as an example. What they mean is 'any journey over 200 miles'
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  How often do you drive on a trip lasting more than 4 hours? I'd guess about zero to four times a year? Because realistically, unless both your starting point and destination are on the same highway and there's no traffic, 200 miles will take 4 hours without breaks. If you can then stop somewhere with fast charging for your Bolt, after a 30 minute break (that you probably should have taken anyway), you have another 90 miles of range. If we take an example, LA to SF is 385 miles and cursory googling says the quickest route takes around 6 hours by car. In a Bolt, you'd have to stop for charging for an additional ~90 minutes. This is only 20 minutes more than what people on the Tesla forums report needing to do the trip in their Model S P85.
  - codeulike 10y ago
    Totally agree. I drive a Leaf and long distance is fine - with a bit of planning the charging happens on the breaks you would have had anyway.
- cdumler 10y ago
  Just rent a gasoline car. I have a car with good gas milage. For trips, I always rent. If you have anything decent in range >600 miles, work out the math: generally, you pay less than expected cost of wear and tear and fuel with a rental, and you don't have it on your personal car. I want an electric, someday. I've watched my range in the city. My average day is 15 miles. My worse days are 70 miles. A 200 mile range would be amazing.
veidr 10y ago
I understand and accept your point, but still want to quibble: the vast majority of Americans will never do this.
tw04 10y ago
People in sales, presumably the people who drive the most and would be a prime target for this, will frequently do 300 miles or more in a day. That isn't "cross-country" travel, it's "I live in a medium-sized state" travel.
- aries1980 10y ago
  True, but that is a very narrow market, isn't it?
dhimes 10y ago
There is some wisdom in renting a car to do a trip like that anyway. There's more peace of mind that if there is car trouble your trip won't have to be totally scrubbed.

codeulike 10y ago

They are using coast to coast as an example. What they mean is 'any journey over 200 miles'

semi-extrinsic 10y ago
How often do you drive on a trip lasting more than 4 hours? I'd guess about zero to four times a year? Because realistically, unless both your starting point and destination are on the same highway and there's no traffic, 200 miles will take 4 hours without breaks. If you can then stop somewhere with fast charging for your Bolt, after a 30 minute break (that you probably should have taken anyway), you have another 90 miles of range. If we take an example, LA to SF is 385 miles and cursory googling says the quickest route takes around 6 hours by car. In a Bolt, you'd have to stop for charging for an additional ~90 minutes. This is only 20 minutes more than what people on the Tesla forums report needing to do the trip in their Model S P85.
- codeulike 10y ago
  Totally agree. I drive a Leaf and long distance is fine - with a bit of planning the charging happens on the breaks you would have had anyway.
cdumler 10y ago
Just rent a gasoline car. I have a car with good gas milage. For trips, I always rent. If you have anything decent in range >600 miles, work out the math: generally, you pay less than expected cost of wear and tear and fuel with a rental, and you don't have it on your personal car. I want an electric, someday. I've watched my range in the city. My average day is 15 miles. My worse days are 70 miles. A 200 mile range would be amazing.

veidr 10y ago

I understand and accept your point, but still want to quibble: the vast majority of Americans will never do this.

tw04 10y ago

People in sales, presumably the people who drive the most and would be a prime target for this, will frequently do 300 miles or more in a day. That isn't "cross-country" travel, it's "I live in a medium-sized state" travel.

aries1980 10y ago
True, but that is a very narrow market, isn't it?

dhimes 10y ago

There is some wisdom in renting a car to do a trip like that anyway. There's more peace of mind that if there is car trouble your trip won't have to be totally scrubbed.