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people who buy products with limited supply that are in high demand and then resell at a premium. Very common for tickets(concerts, sports etc)

by vaksel 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago
Right, ok that explains a bit about the stores actions, but still the guy at least says he did not profit from this, in fact it took him time and all he did was recover his expenses.
- philwelch 17y ago
  For every noble minded person who, out of the goodness of their own heart, runs other people's errands to the Apple Store, there's probably >1 scalper, on average.
- ErrantX 17y ago
  How does Apple know that?
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Possibly because he told them? Maybe he's lying I don't know but I tend to believe people. I realize that's a serious shortcoming :)
- bena 17y ago
  "hoarders who were unloading iPads on eBay to cash in on the $150+ markup. Instead, my asking prices were very reasonable, just enough to cover all the tax, international express shipping, and Paypal fees with a little left over for unexpected costs" Notice how he specifically mentions a price for the "eBay hoarders", but avoids mentioning his markup. I wouldn't be surprised if his markup was close to $150 as well without actually ever being over. Like somewhere around $140. His story is contrived in a way to give you a good impression of him and a negative one of the Apple store employees. Another couple of telling parts in the story are: "reservations are limited to one per iTunes account. Luckily I have a second account so I used that to place the reservation" and "Ok, so the gig is up" followed by a whole unnecessary conversation. The first quote shows that he knows that what he is doing isn't exactly kosher with Apple. He is willingly and knowingly flaunting their policies. The second quote shows that he realizes he's been had. He already knows why he was busted, but he persists in trying to troll the employees into saying something slanderous, like euphemisms for the fact that he's an unauthorized reseller. I call into question the morals and ethics of the author of the post.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    I don't call into question his morals and ethics, but it probably would have been more honest if he didn't try to paint Apple as the bad guys though.
  - Lazlo_Nibble 17y ago
    Can you even associate an iPad with an iTunes account that's registered in a territory where they aren't selling them yet?
barrkel 17y ago
Yes, it's called capitalism. Not popular with Apple, I understand - they're a bit more corporatist. (I jest, but to make a point.)
- philwelch 17y ago
  I think most retailers have policies to prevent scalping. I'd be more mad at Ticketmaster if I was you. (Most people already are, but not because their prices are too low!) And to hell with the Green Bay Packers, if only their season tickets were more expensive, all those middle class people in rural Wisconsin wouldn't be able to afford them and the decades-long waiting list would just dry up! Stupid corporatists and their 3-4 defense.
fleitz 17y ago
I always thought "scalpers" just added a service charge, like ticket master.
- telemachos 17y ago
  (Long shaggy dog story - you've been warned.) June 5th, 1999: The New York Knicks are playing the Indiana Pacers in the NBA playoffs. At the time, I'm living in New Jersey, and I'm heading into Penn Station to go home. A scalper walks up to me (and everyone else, I suppose) and offers me a ticket to the game. The ticket's stamped price is $100 (maybe $125). The scalper wants $450. I think about it, think about it, think about it. I pass. Hours later, with just over 6 seconds left in the game, Larry Johnson wins it for the Knicks with an amazing, once in a decade 4-point play. I'm at home, jumping up and down, screaming. (Links below for the play.) So, yeah, that's a service charge, but not quite like Ticket Master. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/playoffs/eastern/news/1999/06/05/pacers_knicks_game3/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/playoff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3pGGjdBzns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3pGGjdBzns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7JVEHbuG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7JVEHbuG4 (Less drama, more basketball version of the video)
  - Vivtek 17y ago
    Damn but that was a good game. That was the one and only time I've ever listened to a sports event of any nature on the radio, and I managed to get to a TV just in time for that play of Johnson's - fantastic even though I was in Indiana and rooting for the Pacers! Thanks for reminding me of that. Wow!
  - matwood 17y ago
    If it wasn't for the scalper though you probably wouldn't have even had the option to go it you had wanted to.
- blhack 17y ago
  Scalpers are the people you'd see standing outside of a sporting event selling tickets at a markup. It works out because if you don't care about the beginning, you can often times score them for very cheap. There was a beer tasting event I went to a few months ago where tickets were ~$60. I showed up really really late (I was the designated driver anyhow) and got mine for something like $15 (which was cheaper than what the promoter was offering the "designated driver" tickets [which don't allow you to drink the beer] for).

people who buy products with limited supply that are in high demand and then resell at a premium. Very common for tickets(concerts, sports etc)

by vaksel 17y ago

people who buy products with limited supply that are in high demand and then resell at a premium. Very common for tickets(concerts, sports etc)

jacquesm 17y ago

Right, ok that explains a bit about the stores actions, but still the guy at least says he did not profit from this, in fact it took him time and all he did was recover his expenses.

philwelch 17y ago
For every noble minded person who, out of the goodness of their own heart, runs other people's errands to the Apple Store, there's probably >1 scalper, on average.
ErrantX 17y ago
How does Apple know that?
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Possibly because he told them? Maybe he's lying I don't know but I tend to believe people. I realize that's a serious shortcoming :)
bena 17y ago
"hoarders who were unloading iPads on eBay to cash in on the $150+ markup. Instead, my asking prices were very reasonable, just enough to cover all the tax, international express shipping, and Paypal fees with a little left over for unexpected costs" Notice how he specifically mentions a price for the "eBay hoarders", but avoids mentioning his markup. I wouldn't be surprised if his markup was close to $150 as well without actually ever being over. Like somewhere around $140. His story is contrived in a way to give you a good impression of him and a negative one of the Apple store employees. Another couple of telling parts in the story are: "reservations are limited to one per iTunes account. Luckily I have a second account so I used that to place the reservation" and "Ok, so the gig is up" followed by a whole unnecessary conversation. The first quote shows that he knows that what he is doing isn't exactly kosher with Apple. He is willingly and knowingly flaunting their policies. The second quote shows that he realizes he's been had. He already knows why he was busted, but he persists in trying to troll the employees into saying something slanderous, like euphemisms for the fact that he's an unauthorized reseller. I call into question the morals and ethics of the author of the post.
- philwelch 17y ago
  I don't call into question his morals and ethics, but it probably would have been more honest if he didn't try to paint Apple as the bad guys though.
- Lazlo_Nibble 17y ago
  Can you even associate an iPad with an iTunes account that's registered in a territory where they aren't selling them yet?

barrkel 17y ago

Yes, it's called capitalism. Not popular with Apple, I understand - they're a bit more corporatist. (I jest, but to make a point.)

philwelch 17y ago
I think most retailers have policies to prevent scalping. I'd be more mad at Ticketmaster if I was you. (Most people already are, but not because their prices are too low!) And to hell with the Green Bay Packers, if only their season tickets were more expensive, all those middle class people in rural Wisconsin wouldn't be able to afford them and the decades-long waiting list would just dry up! Stupid corporatists and their 3-4 defense.

fleitz 17y ago

I always thought "scalpers" just added a service charge, like ticket master.

telemachos 17y ago
(Long shaggy dog story - you've been warned.) June 5th, 1999: The New York Knicks are playing the Indiana Pacers in the NBA playoffs. At the time, I'm living in New Jersey, and I'm heading into Penn Station to go home. A scalper walks up to me (and everyone else, I suppose) and offers me a ticket to the game. The ticket's stamped price is $100 (maybe $125). The scalper wants $450. I think about it, think about it, think about it. I pass. Hours later, with just over 6 seconds left in the game, Larry Johnson wins it for the Knicks with an amazing, once in a decade 4-point play. I'm at home, jumping up and down, screaming. (Links below for the play.) So, yeah, that's a service charge, but not quite like Ticket Master. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/playoffs/eastern/news/1999/06/05/pacers_knicks_game3/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/playoff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3pGGjdBzns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3pGGjdBzns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7JVEHbuG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7JVEHbuG4 (Less drama, more basketball version of the video)
- Vivtek 17y ago
  Damn but that was a good game. That was the one and only time I've ever listened to a sports event of any nature on the radio, and I managed to get to a TV just in time for that play of Johnson's - fantastic even though I was in Indiana and rooting for the Pacers! Thanks for reminding me of that. Wow!
- matwood 17y ago
  If it wasn't for the scalper though you probably wouldn't have even had the option to go it you had wanted to.
blhack 17y ago
Scalpers are the people you'd see standing outside of a sporting event selling tickets at a markup. It works out because if you don't care about the beginning, you can often times score them for very cheap. There was a beer tasting event I went to a few months ago where tickets were ~$60. I showed up really really late (I was the designated driver anyhow) and got mine for something like $15 (which was cheaper than what the promoter was offering the "designated driver" tickets [which don't allow you to drink the beer] for).