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So Facebook is basically killing it in mobile without building phones and phone operating systems. Google whats up with that?
by wen3 10y ago
So Facebook is basically killing it in mobile without building phones and phone operating systems. Google whats up with that?
- harmegido 10y agoAndroid makes a ton of money for Google because for every Android phone, that's one more user they don't have to pay to have their default search engine be google. Take a look at the Oracle case - Google pays billions of dollars a year to Apple to have their search on iPhones. And it's not a flat fee, it's a percentage of revenue. Facebook doesn't have this problem because there is no other social network. Search engines don't really have network effects, facebook does.
- havetocharge 10y agoWhy won't you Google it.
- refulgentis 10y agoIt's fun being a free rider!
- meira 10y agoGoogle should start show ads on top of Facebook. If you are not paying, you are the product ;)
- zanny 10y agoPlenty of companies made money on Windows without directly paying Microsoft. Google gets some revenue from Android OEMs licensing the rights to distribute Gapps. If Facebook moves Android phone sales, Google makes money. Not nearly as much as MS did per unit, but Android is also installed on way more devices today than Windows ever could have hoped to be.
- the_watcher 10y agoGoogle does advertise on Facebook. There's no way for them to put AdWords or AdSense ads on Facebook without their cooperation, and if you're suggesting they do it through Android, they can have a blast trying to sell Android phones when Facebook pulls themselves from them.
- beagle3 10y agoAnd just what will those users buy? The Samsung-S7 (and equivalents) will buy a similarly priced iPhone. The rest have no alternative. BlackBerry is down and out. Windows Phone essentially is too. The only remaining players are iOS (at 10% of the market and 90% of the profit) and Android (with the rest).
- the_watcher 10y agoThat's my point. Google would never use their control of Android to serve their own AdWords or AdSense ads on Facebook on mobile, because the loss of Facebook would push the Android segment that makes them money (the higher end segment) towards iOS
- Analemma_ 10y agoIt's the stream; Facebook has a stream and Google does not. After various experiments, I think people have figured out that the #1 way to make money on mobile is to have a stream of information that people willingly spend lots of time in. You just inject ads into that stream and bingo: profit. It's much harder for Google to win big here because while they have a very useful tool, people don't linger in it. They usually use it to get in, get what they need, and get out.
- nemothekid 10y ago>I think people have figured out that the #1 way to make money on mobile is to have a stream of information that people willingly spend lots of time in Twitter says hi
- the_watcher 10y agoTwitter has generally done decently well on revenue per user (although that has performed worse recently as they've reduced their sales force). Twitter's problem, more than anything else, has always been increasing active users.
- Analemma_ 10y agoThat's just the plan; you still have to execute capably on that plan, which is where Twitter falls down. Honestly Twitter could be healthy company- not as profitable as Facebook, but healthy- if they didn't have such incompetent management
- jcfrei 10y agoIf this was so simple then the owners of reddit would be sitting on a gold mine.
- umanwizard 10y agoReddit only started putting ads /in the stream/ of comments and posts pretty recently.
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