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You have no way to challenge the assessor? Here (U.S.) you could put together a book of 50-100 similar houses and their sale prices. Take that to court and have

by jfoutz 10y ago

You have no way to challenge the assessor? Here (U.S.) you could put together a book of 50-100 similar houses and their sale prices. Take that to court and have the house reassessed. The US isn't corruption free, but in my limited experience, it's hard to have an assessment wildly out of line with reality, 3x would be hard to justify.

atmosx 10y ago
> You have no way to challenge the assessor? No you have not. The tax is based on a tag price the gov puts on your property which might be 10x more than the actually market value (sometimes even 50x, not kidding). Greece is a more like a dormitory these days. It's a miracle people still survive here, but economic activity is virtually dead and indirect taxation is still on the raise.
- return0 10y ago
  > which might be 10x more than the actually market value (sometimes even 50x, not kidding Given that the values have been recently reassessed [2016], i would like to know where these 10x and 50x values are. Not disputing you, but curious to know.
  - toomuchtodo 10y ago
    Is this data in Greece public the same as it is in the US? Can we obtain and aggregate this data? For science!
    - return0 10y ago
      It is, but bit hard to parse: http://www.et.gr/index.php/82-2013-01-30-08-00-00/204-4500 http://www.et.gr/index.php/82-2013-01-30-08-00-00/204-4500
  - atmosx 10y ago
    > Given that the values have been recently reassessed [...] MY experience is from a bid in 2012-13. But out of curiosity, how would you asses this[1] situation? It's a random article I just googled... http://www.zougla.gr/greece/article/kalite-na-plirosi-enfia-gia-spiti-se-xorio-fantasma http://www.zougla.gr/greece/article/kalite-na-plirosi-enfia-...
    - return0 10y ago
      Thats really a fringe case of some long-forgotten property in a no-construction zone. The solution is to disown the property. It's not a comparison of real price <> assessment
      - atmosx 10y ago
        You think so? I came across another 2 cases of people I know who did not accept inheritance (houses in villages by remote dead relatives) because of ENFIA. How do you call that? Another fringe case? :-)
        return0 10y ago
        i call it fair. Why does having a business qualify you to pay taxes but having a property does not?

by jfoutz 10y ago

atmosx 10y ago

> You have no way to challenge the assessor? No you have not. The tax is based on a tag price the gov puts on your property which might be 10x more than the actually market value (sometimes even 50x, not kidding). Greece is a more like a dormitory these days. It's a miracle people still survive here, but economic activity is virtually dead and indirect taxation is still on the raise.

return0 10y ago
> which might be 10x more than the actually market value (sometimes even 50x, not kidding Given that the values have been recently reassessed [2016], i would like to know where these 10x and 50x values are. Not disputing you, but curious to know.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  Is this data in Greece public the same as it is in the US? Can we obtain and aggregate this data? For science!
  - return0 10y ago
    It is, but bit hard to parse: http://www.et.gr/index.php/82-2013-01-30-08-00-00/204-4500 http://www.et.gr/index.php/82-2013-01-30-08-00-00/204-4500
- atmosx 10y ago
  > Given that the values have been recently reassessed [...] MY experience is from a bid in 2012-13. But out of curiosity, how would you asses this[1] situation? It's a random article I just googled... http://www.zougla.gr/greece/article/kalite-na-plirosi-enfia-gia-spiti-se-xorio-fantasma http://www.zougla.gr/greece/article/kalite-na-plirosi-enfia-...
  - return0 10y ago
    Thats really a fringe case of some long-forgotten property in a no-construction zone. The solution is to disown the property. It's not a comparison of real price <> assessment
    - atmosx 10y ago
      You think so? I came across another 2 cases of people I know who did not accept inheritance (houses in villages by remote dead relatives) because of ENFIA. How do you call that? Another fringe case? :-)
      - return0 10y ago
        i call it fair. Why does having a business qualify you to pay taxes but having a property does not?