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You're right. Porn sites in general are poorly designed from the UI side. But the fact is, porn users will go through hoops to find what they want. Eventuall
by cerrelio 10y ago
You're right. Porn sites in general are poorly designed from the UI side. But the fact is, porn users will go through hoops to find what they want. Eventually the porn companies got into analytics (I'd say in the mid- to late- 2000's), and the ones who used that data to improve their products took off.
One thing about being an engineer there was that you did actually own the product end-to-end. I remember taking systems from development to production without all the bullshit you normally encounter at large corporations. I would put something into production and my boss (the CTO) would leisurely say "Oh yeah, contact so-and-so in ops to have them secure the server." I would do that, and I didn't get a freak-out like you'd experience in more straight-laced companies: "YOU PUT THIS IN PRODUCTION WITHOUT FILLING OUT ALL THE REQUIRED JIRA TICKETS AND APPROVAL FROM 3 LAYERS OF MANAGEMENT?!?! WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THIS DOWN AND HAVE A MEETING!" Nope, a dude in ops, who was usually stoned, would log in, add all the necessary protections and even redeploy the whole stack if he had to. No griping.
One thing about it was that you'd have to be okay with some unscrupulous/unethical practices. Copyright infringement is par for the course in that industry. Studios/companies stealing others' content is unavoidable (and encouraged).
I remember when I wrote a tube site and I was given a list of other tube sites to rip content from. For that particular project the product manager (who was also a high-ranking exec) strongly emphasized two things: every action had to be trackable, and it was a necessary requirement that handling DMCA take-down notices had to be a very streamlined and automated process.
Why? They would have people monitor which videos were heavily viewed and which were taken down frequently. If a particular studio's content generated lots of traffic but were frequently taken down, the sales/ad guys would contact that studio to make a deal. If no deal was struck, then an "anonymous user" would reupload the content to the site; starting the cycle again. Eventually that would wear down the studio into cutting a rev-sharing deal. Sometimes the company would buy the studio outright, if it made enough sense.
- emp_zealoth 10y agoActually the last part makes great sense - it pretty much is what allowed music platforms to proliferate. It levels the playing field where you no longer are fleeced mercilessly. I mean, I use Libgen and usually get enough books to cost me 5k or 10k €. Hopefully it will bring sanity into that market (Even though it is already blocked in UK, for some obscure reason) Take my Spotify away and I'll probably just stop caring about music that much at all
- DanBC 10y agoHere's what some UK users will see. > Access to this website has been > Blocked > Blocking access to the ibgen.org and libgen.in website has been made pursuant to a Court Order dated 19 May 2015 obtained by the members of the Bloomsbury Publishing PLC and others. > Any TalkTalk customer affected by the Court Order has a right under the Court Order to apply to vary or discharge it. Any such application must: > (i) clearly indicate the identity and status of the applicant; > (ii) be supported by evidence setting out and justifying the grounds of the application; and > (iii) be made on 10 days notice to all of the parties to the Court Order.
- dogma1138 10y agohttp://golibgen.io/ http://golibgen.io/ works. The UK's asinine policy in regards to the internet is why I no longer use any connection that terminate in the UK.
- jnsaff2 10y agoOr use http://aa.net.uk http://aa.net.uk which does not have filtering at all and has native IPv6, is run by people who care for their craft. I've been a very happy customer.
- dogma1138 10y agoThey unfortunately have datacaps and don't offer fiber only openreach FTTC style connections at best and at about 3 times what I pay for 1gbit up/down in London ATM.
- badpenny 10y agoWhat do you mean by "they don't offer fiber"? At first I thought you meant they don't offer FTTP but I checked their website and they do.
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- mahyarm 10y agoIt just sounds like a casual small software business or something else that is startup-y, minus the casual copyright infringement
- digi_owl 10y agoYeah i think all that red tape comes from appeasing the stock market, government agencies, and insurance companies. Do not have the proper paper trail when shit hits the fan? Well there goes your share value, you get a hefty fine from government oversight, and the premium just went through the roof.
- dingaling 10y agoPrecisely; in industries where a company can be fined megabucks per day, or be shut-down entirely, for non-compliance those layers of approval and review are unfortunately necessary. Though of course some of them are just jobsworthing by middle managers. How do porn companies continue to handle credit card payments without complying with PCI standards and processes?
- bcoates 10y agoIn my experience the overwhelming majority of process introduced in the name of PCI compliance are not actually required by any of the documentation. Whether you can find an auditor that will let you get away with merely following the rules is another matter.
- narrowrail 10y agoI don't have pr0n industry experience, but I worked for the largest merchant acquirer (MA) (the orgs that allow merchants to accept CCs) in the U.S. The merchant acquirer ecosystem has a pyramid structure where many Independent Sales Organizations (ISOs) service specific industries while re-selling CC acceptance from ~6 companies (~80%+ market share). These pr0n companies pay monthly rates that correspond with their chargeback numbers, etc and do not deal directly with the MAs.
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- finid 10y agoNope, a dude in ops, who was usually stoned, would log in, add all the necessary protections and even redeploy the whole stack if he had to. No griping. That made me laugh. The guy in charge of securing a production server is usually stoned...
- golergka 10y agoDrugs have different effe ts on people. Weed usually makes me think slower and helps to concentrate on one thing. Great for debugging, for example.
- finid 10y agoYou guys are too funny. Thinking slower will make me freak out. I need my mind to be clear and my brain going at top speed every waking moment.
- m0llusk 10y agoIf you were suffering from clinical anxiety as PTSD and ACE patients do then you might find cannabis to be the one thing that makes your mind clear of distracting fear and flashbacks. Assuming that all people and minds and drugs interact in the same way is a huge mistake.
- enneff 10y agoNot in the context of drugs, but I find I am at my best when my mind is calm. I find it hard to be happy or productive when my mind is racing.
- golergka 10y agoA clear mind and top speed thinking are things that contradict one another. The faster you think, the harder it is to concentrate on one thing.
- chris_wot 10y agoAs a person with Attention Deficit Disorder, I can attest. I am prescribed amphetamines to slow me down, not speed me up!
- nthcolumn 10y agoSome people I know only go to the porn sites to steal their code. I'm surprised you say that about the UX side because there is some nice libs in there and weird stuff with jquery. There is always that danger though that you might see something. So, not so great.
- rickdale 10y agoSome people I know only go to the porn sites to steal their code. And if I send the former prince of Nigeria $5,000 he will unlock billions and send me half, lol.
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- 01Michael10 10y agoThere is a danger you might see something? What?
- chris_wot 10y agoNasty, nasty porn.
- 01Michael10 10y agoOh, no!
- chris_wot 10y agoEnjoy your bestiality, I guess.
- 01Michael10 10y agoYou sound confused son. Who was talking about bestiality?
- amelius 10y ago> Porn sites in general are poorly designed from the UI side. But the fact is, porn users will go through hoops to find what they want. Try finding porn while not seeing any male genitals during searching/browsing. It's virtually impossible, and it totally ruins the UX :)
- B1FF_PSUVM 10y agoHillary, is that you?
- omarchowdhury 10y agoSo you're saying you want to make a clean porn site?
- 01Michael10 10y agoHey, I prefer lesbian porn myself because not into watching dudes but come on... Most porn is naked woman and men having sex so not seeing dick would be kinda hard. What's wrong? The penis to titillating for you?
- krylon 10y ago> "YOU PUT THIS IN PRODUCTION WITHOUT FILLING OUT ALL THE REQUIRED JIRA TICKETS AND APPROVAL FROM 3 LAYERS OF MANAGEMENT?!?! WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THIS DOWN AND HAVE A MEETING!" This is totally OT, but during my training at a large corporation, I was building a very simple web application and found it desirable to access the corporate phone directory to augment some of the information I presented to the users. I looked around a little and discovered that there was indeed an LDAP server that served the phone directory for the entire freaking company. It would even speak to me after I did an anonymous bind. ;-) So I wrote my web application, handed it off to the guy who ended up maintaining it (me being a trainee and all), and the I thought I'd be a good corporate citizen and checked what I had to do to "legally" access that LDAP server. Turns out I had fill out an application form that was something like six pages long. Unfortunately, filling out that form and sending it to the designated address were my last actions as a member of that team, as my time with that particular team was up. So I never found out if "they" rejected the application or not. (I guess they approved it, because if it was such a big deal, they would not have opened that LDAP server for anonymous access, but you never know - could have been plain stupidity.)
- wastedhours 10y agoThat seems to be the entirety of the last two jobs I've had too - go and build something in dev that's incredibly useful but not signed off/uses APIs that'd need a 6 month review process for (did something similar with LDAP access, found an endpoint and used it for something infinitely more useful to the business), once IT finds out about it, I get my wrist slapped, but have built a fairly solid business case in only a few days, and get to fasttrack through sign off to production. Ruffle a few feathers, but organisational inertia would kill off anything particularly useful for our teams that are 24/7 fighting fires.
- kzisme 10y agoWere the forms essentially a "Change Request" form?
- krylon 10y agoNo, the information they wanted was actually surprisingly reasonable - how many requests per day was my application going to make, how many concurrent connections, how many people would be using my app, what kind of information did I need, what did I need it for, who could they contact if my application turned out to be - intentionally or by accident - DOS'ing the LDAP server(s), and so forth. I just found it kind of funny that I should fill out a six-page form to get information I could technically access already, anonymously. (Also, it was the first time I saw such a form, that might have been a bit of a culture shock for me.)