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Right now it takes between 100 and 120 minutes (scheduled) to go from Poughkeepsie to Grand Central Station or vice versa during peak times. For Riverhead to/fr

Right now it takes between 100 and 120 minutes (scheduled) to go from Poughkeepsie to Grand Central Station or vice versa during peak times. For Riverhead to/from Penn that's 120 - 130. Add travel time on both ends to get door to door times, plus variability on the high side (very little chance of being early). Most people consider that uncommutable though people do it. Poughkeepsie is 73 track miles from GCS and Riverhead is 75.1 track miles to Penn Station. The average speeds that would be need to bring these areas into the reasonable commuting range are not Shinkansen-esque. Even within the official borders of NYC there are some areas with quite difficult commutes to Manhattan. Consider the Bay Terrace neighborhood of Queens. From there to the NYSE stock exchange via public transportation google maps recommends the Q13 bus to the Bayside LIRR station, a Port Washington branch train to Penn Station, and then the number 2 subway. Total trip length: 130 minutes, monthly cost: $330.14. Or consider co-op city in the bronx, from there to the stock exchange google maps recommends a .9 mile walk to the 5 train and then an hour long ride on that subway. If walking that distance was a problem you could take the Bx30 and then the 2 subway for a total trip length of 106 minutes. There are many many sensible transit projects. The big problem is that we have seemingly lost the ability to do transit projects in any sort of reasonable cost or time in the greater NYC area. I've posted some theories on why I think that is on here in the past, but the best thing you can do to get an overview of the issues involved is read this blog: https://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/ https://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/

richardfontana 10y ago
I lived in Bay Terrace during my last three years of attending a high school on the Upper East Side. The bus-subway commute was brutal, about the same amount of time as the described LIRR-subway commute to the NYSE. Around the middle of my last year of high school I drove with my father to the Bayside LIRR station and took a series of subway lines to get from Penn Station to the Upper East Side. This was closer to an hour. Prior to 10th grade I lived in the middle of Brooklyn, and my one-fare subway commute to the same school was no more than an hour. I remember reading that there were proposals to extend the present-day 7 line from Flushing to somewhere around Bayside in the late '60s or early '70s, but these were abandoned due to NIMBY-ism. I actually have known of a few people who regularly commuted from Poughkeepsie (and a few other similar-distance places in Connecticut and New Jersey) to the city.

richardfontana 10y ago

I lived in Bay Terrace during my last three years of attending a high school on the Upper East Side. The bus-subway commute was brutal, about the same amount of time as the described LIRR-subway commute to the NYSE. Around the middle of my last year of high school I drove with my father to the Bayside LIRR station and took a series of subway lines to get from Penn Station to the Upper East Side. This was closer to an hour. Prior to 10th grade I lived in the middle of Brooklyn, and my one-fare subway commute to the same school was no more than an hour. I remember reading that there were proposals to extend the present-day 7 line from Flushing to somewhere around Bayside in the late '60s or early '70s, but these were abandoned due to NIMBY-ism. I actually have known of a few people who regularly commuted from Poughkeepsie (and a few other similar-distance places in Connecticut and New Jersey) to the city.