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Edge web platform status

55 points by based2 10y ago

geuis 10y ago
Interesting https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status/ambientlightevents/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor...
- voltagex_ 10y ago
  The cynic in me says this is just going to be used as another way to track and ID users (let's say a Dell sensor behaves differently from a Lenovo sensor) That aside, it's listed as Windows Insider Preview Build 10586+ only. Does anyone know if there's any other releases of Windows planned before the "Creators Update" (aka Redstone 2)? That's a while to wait to fix some of the problems with Anniversary.
  - DHowett 10y ago
    10586 is older than the Anniversary Update (14393); this should definitely be available now.
    - voltagex_ 10y ago
      Oops, got my build numbers mixed up. Thanks. Now to find a device that has that sensor!
vmasto 10y ago
I'm wondering if the data are outdated. Running through some ES2015 features like classes or arrow functions I noticed Safari was still "in development" while Safari 10 has shipped for over a month now with almost full ES2015 support.
minitech 10y ago
This seems inaccurate. For example, Box Alignment lists Firefox as having no support at all when it actually has full support as far as I’m aware. Edit: the detailed information page disagrees with the summary (indeed listing full support) https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/catalog/?q=specName%3Acss-align-3 https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor... so I suppose it’s just a mistake.
ilaksh 10y ago
The list is out-of-date for the other browsers. There are key things that are missing such as 'object.observe': 'not planned' or 'RTC data channels': 'under consideration'. Microsoft has massive engineering capabilities. Do you really think its a coincidence that Mozilla and Chrome have these types of key features but Microsoft's browser doesn't? The reason Microsoft has always lagged behind on web platform capabilities and continues to do so today, despite all of the success their giant marketing machine has had in concealing it, is because the web platform is in fact the greatest potential threat to Microsoft's office and PC gaming monopolies. So they drag their feet on key capabilities and under-fund web platform engineering.
- eldavido 10y ago
  This may have been true in 2005. It is emphatically not true today. The biggest story in computing today is mobile and Microsoft has nothing there. Zilch. Nada. They've officially ended development of Windows Phone, they have no OS, and no first-party handsets. The case for Microsoft making a great browser is as strong today as it's ever been; it's one of the few app platforms with massive global distribution they still have a shot at participating in. Look at Asia and many other ex-US locations, people don't even think of buying PCs, Windows is utterly irrelevant to these people.
  - golf1052 10y ago
    Microsoft may have almost completely bowed out of mobile for now doesn't mean they are not doing anything in the space. They've been constantly pushing updates to Windows Mobile (see https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/tag/windows-insider-program/#7z0Ag8LmyH5jbxPi.97 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/tag/windows-insi...) and they still sell first party Windows Mobile devices (Lumia 950, 950 XL). Basically nobody cares at this point but they're still slowly moving along in mobile. Probably for future plans.
    - nailer 10y ago
      The thing I hate about both my iPhone and Android devices is checking 12 apps for update messages. If I could have a mobile OS with a universal inbox - to read new email, messaging, Tinder/Feeld/Bumble, AirBnB, twitter, and everything else I'd use it. Like what Blackberry had 10 years ago but with most of the messages coming from apps. If I were Microsoft I'd implement it as part of the Windows SDK.
cyborgx7 10y ago
> VP9 Video Playback > Opus Audio Playback > WebM Container All supported I didn't know this yet. Good on you Microsoft, I guess.
nailer 10y ago
Looks great for the most part, but still no HTML5 clipboard support, and every browser (even Safari) has it.
JaboDabo 10y ago
It crashes constantly. When will they fix that?

55 points by based2 10y ago

geuis 10y ago

Interesting https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status/ambientlightevents/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor...

voltagex_ 10y ago
The cynic in me says this is just going to be used as another way to track and ID users (let's say a Dell sensor behaves differently from a Lenovo sensor) That aside, it's listed as Windows Insider Preview Build 10586+ only. Does anyone know if there's any other releases of Windows planned before the "Creators Update" (aka Redstone 2)? That's a while to wait to fix some of the problems with Anniversary.
- DHowett 10y ago
  10586 is older than the Anniversary Update (14393); this should definitely be available now.
  - voltagex_ 10y ago
    Oops, got my build numbers mixed up. Thanks. Now to find a device that has that sensor!

vmasto 10y ago

I'm wondering if the data are outdated. Running through some ES2015 features like classes or arrow functions I noticed Safari was still "in development" while Safari 10 has shipped for over a month now with almost full ES2015 support.

minitech 10y ago

This seems inaccurate. For example, Box Alignment lists Firefox as having no support at all when it actually has full support as far as I’m aware. Edit: the detailed information page disagrees with the summary (indeed listing full support) https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/catalog/?q=specName%3Acss-align-3 https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor... so I suppose it’s just a mistake.

ilaksh 10y ago

The list is out-of-date for the other browsers. There are key things that are missing such as 'object.observe': 'not planned' or 'RTC data channels': 'under consideration'. Microsoft has massive engineering capabilities. Do you really think its a coincidence that Mozilla and Chrome have these types of key features but Microsoft's browser doesn't? The reason Microsoft has always lagged behind on web platform capabilities and continues to do so today, despite all of the success their giant marketing machine has had in concealing it, is because the web platform is in fact the greatest potential threat to Microsoft's office and PC gaming monopolies. So they drag their feet on key capabilities and under-fund web platform engineering.

eldavido 10y ago
This may have been true in 2005. It is emphatically not true today. The biggest story in computing today is mobile and Microsoft has nothing there. Zilch. Nada. They've officially ended development of Windows Phone, they have no OS, and no first-party handsets. The case for Microsoft making a great browser is as strong today as it's ever been; it's one of the few app platforms with massive global distribution they still have a shot at participating in. Look at Asia and many other ex-US locations, people don't even think of buying PCs, Windows is utterly irrelevant to these people.
- golf1052 10y ago
  Microsoft may have almost completely bowed out of mobile for now doesn't mean they are not doing anything in the space. They've been constantly pushing updates to Windows Mobile (see https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/tag/windows-insider-program/#7z0Ag8LmyH5jbxPi.97 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/tag/windows-insi...) and they still sell first party Windows Mobile devices (Lumia 950, 950 XL). Basically nobody cares at this point but they're still slowly moving along in mobile. Probably for future plans.
  - nailer 10y ago
    The thing I hate about both my iPhone and Android devices is checking 12 apps for update messages. If I could have a mobile OS with a universal inbox - to read new email, messaging, Tinder/Feeld/Bumble, AirBnB, twitter, and everything else I'd use it. Like what Blackberry had 10 years ago but with most of the messages coming from apps. If I were Microsoft I'd implement it as part of the Windows SDK.

cyborgx7 10y ago

> VP9 Video Playback > Opus Audio Playback > WebM Container All supported I didn't know this yet. Good on you Microsoft, I guess.

nailer 10y ago

Looks great for the most part, but still no HTML5 clipboard support, and every browser (even Safari) has it.

JaboDabo 10y ago

It crashes constantly. When will they fix that?