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Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser, but this is truly shocking. Like, Google Reader shutdown level shocking. Twitter is seriousl

by Grue3 10y ago

Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser, but this is truly shocking. Like, Google Reader shutdown level shocking. Twitter is seriously clueless if they weren't able to make any use of such a popular service. Especially when Periscope is still running somehow. Though it's only a matter of time for that too now.

strictnein 10y ago
If Jack looks at Twitter as fulfilling some sort of social purpose, Periscope falls much more into that scope than Vine.
downandout 10y ago
Periscope may stick around for a while only because of the current obsession with live video. As soon as Facebook gives up on live (or at least stops focusing so much on it), Twitter will follow suit and fold up Periscope. If I were an engineer on that team, I'd do some proactive job hunting.
- protomyth 10y ago
  They mentioned Periscope during their live demo at the Apple event, so I would hope it stays for a while.
- pbreit 10y ago
  Looks pretty clear that Facebook and Twitter are all-in on live video for the medium to long term. Twitter even has live broadcasting deals with NFL, MLB and NBA.
  - mgkimsal 10y ago
    I'm not sure that translates to full support for any random twitter user to be doing 'live' broadcasts. It may not be a huge impact on the infrastructure, but when cost-cutting comes up again, unless they're monetizing it somehow, I'd expect "random joe live-video broadcasting" to be on the chopping block. MLB? NFL? NBA? I'm sure money's being exchanged to make it worthwhile to handle that.
    - downandout 10y ago
      Agreed. I wasn't including professional broadcasts in my comments about Periscope. There will always be a market for live pro sports, newscasts, etc.
  - jfb 10y ago
    For an engineer not to be actively looking, you have to believe that Twitter will be around for the foreseeable future. That seems like a sucker's bet, to me.
  - adw 10y ago
    They'll lose to Twitch long-term.
- barake 10y ago
  It all comes down to the engagement metrics. Facebook and Twitter will stick with live video as long as people keep watching. Same reason Twitter pulled Periscope viewing in to the main app - helps them pump up the numbers.
- mastre_ 10y ago
  I seriously doubt this will happen. From personal experience, I see more and more people using live on Fb & Twitter, it's even starting to engage the older generations. And from a big picture perspective, video, and motion formats in general, are definitely the future.
- mliker 10y ago
  geez lol. Sounds like someone got seriously burnt by live video to think that.
- goffley3 10y ago
  I can't wait for that day to come. Facebook just can't do live video competently.
toxican 10y ago
At this point Vine isn't really all that unique anymore. Facebook, instagram, snapchat and twitter all do what it did. I'm not very surprised by this at all.
- jamesgeck0 10y ago
  I somehow had no idea that Twitter had a video function similar to Vine, and I use the app a few times a week.
- azinman2 10y ago
  They have video creation tools aimed at very specific length, and in doing so, have many videos within this format?
cunotaco 10y ago
That's funny, I've always had the same experience with Vine--website always took a long time to load, then videos would hiccup a lot, if they loaded at all.
Earfolds 10y ago
A majority of the Vine content I watched was compilations people made on YouTube, and a lot of those compilations have moved on from Vine, to Instagram and Snapchat. I'm not suggesting Vine was superseded per se, as its users were generating a ton of content even to this moment, but at least from my perspective it seems its main users have had suitable alternatives available to them for a while.
- wastedhours 10y ago
  Yeah - YouTube wins because it directly generates income for creators, Snapchat wins because it's access to a different demographic in a unique way, Vine had great momentum and made creation easy, but never had a particularly strong USP so there's little loyalty to it as it's own platform for creators to drive traffic to.
douche 10y ago
> Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser Shocking, shocking I say!
cdevs 10y ago
Never drove a car but when I did I hit people.

by Grue3 10y ago

strictnein 10y ago

If Jack looks at Twitter as fulfilling some sort of social purpose, Periscope falls much more into that scope than Vine.

downandout 10y ago

Periscope may stick around for a while only because of the current obsession with live video. As soon as Facebook gives up on live (or at least stops focusing so much on it), Twitter will follow suit and fold up Periscope. If I were an engineer on that team, I'd do some proactive job hunting.

protomyth 10y ago
They mentioned Periscope during their live demo at the Apple event, so I would hope it stays for a while.
pbreit 10y ago
Looks pretty clear that Facebook and Twitter are all-in on live video for the medium to long term. Twitter even has live broadcasting deals with NFL, MLB and NBA.
- mgkimsal 10y ago
  I'm not sure that translates to full support for any random twitter user to be doing 'live' broadcasts. It may not be a huge impact on the infrastructure, but when cost-cutting comes up again, unless they're monetizing it somehow, I'd expect "random joe live-video broadcasting" to be on the chopping block. MLB? NFL? NBA? I'm sure money's being exchanged to make it worthwhile to handle that.
  - downandout 10y ago
    Agreed. I wasn't including professional broadcasts in my comments about Periscope. There will always be a market for live pro sports, newscasts, etc.
- jfb 10y ago
  For an engineer not to be actively looking, you have to believe that Twitter will be around for the foreseeable future. That seems like a sucker's bet, to me.
- adw 10y ago
  They'll lose to Twitch long-term.
barake 10y ago
It all comes down to the engagement metrics. Facebook and Twitter will stick with live video as long as people keep watching. Same reason Twitter pulled Periscope viewing in to the main app - helps them pump up the numbers.
mastre_ 10y ago
I seriously doubt this will happen. From personal experience, I see more and more people using live on Fb & Twitter, it's even starting to engage the older generations. And from a big picture perspective, video, and motion formats in general, are definitely the future.
mliker 10y ago
geez lol. Sounds like someone got seriously burnt by live video to think that.
goffley3 10y ago
I can't wait for that day to come. Facebook just can't do live video competently.

toxican 10y ago

At this point Vine isn't really all that unique anymore. Facebook, instagram, snapchat and twitter all do what it did. I'm not very surprised by this at all.

jamesgeck0 10y ago
I somehow had no idea that Twitter had a video function similar to Vine, and I use the app a few times a week.
azinman2 10y ago
They have video creation tools aimed at very specific length, and in doing so, have many videos within this format?

cunotaco 10y ago

That's funny, I've always had the same experience with Vine--website always took a long time to load, then videos would hiccup a lot, if they loaded at all.

Earfolds 10y ago

A majority of the Vine content I watched was compilations people made on YouTube, and a lot of those compilations have moved on from Vine, to Instagram and Snapchat. I'm not suggesting Vine was superseded per se, as its users were generating a ton of content even to this moment, but at least from my perspective it seems its main users have had suitable alternatives available to them for a while.

wastedhours 10y ago
Yeah - YouTube wins because it directly generates income for creators, Snapchat wins because it's access to a different demographic in a unique way, Vine had great momentum and made creation easy, but never had a particularly strong USP so there's little loyalty to it as it's own platform for creators to drive traffic to.

douche 10y ago

> Never used Vine, and the videos from it never worked on my browser Shocking, shocking I say!

cdevs 10y ago

Never drove a car but when I did I hit people.