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First the master: http://worrydream.com/ http://worrydream.com/ Surprised nobody's posted it yet. Other people are also posting their own, so here's mine: htt
by dougk16 10y ago
First the master: http://worrydream.com/ http://worrydream.com/
Surprised nobody's posted it yet.
Other people are also posting their own, so here's mine: http://www.dougkoellmer.com/ http://www.dougkoellmer.com/
Other job-hunt-specific efforts:
http://www.dougkoellmer.com/portfolio/ http://www.dougkoellmer.com/portfolio/
http://www.dougkoellmer.com/resume/ http://www.dougkoellmer.com/resume/
http://www.dougkoellmer.com/games/ http://www.dougkoellmer.com/games/
Can't be totally sure but I believe they've gotten me a job or two.
- chuckdries 10y agoI like your concept, but zoomed out the layout kinda reminds me of a swastika with more arms.
- jdc0589 10y agoI totally thought it was going to be a swastika before I got zoomed out all the way
- dougk16 10y agoHa! I was going for spiral galaxy, but now you've got me wondering about all those job applications that I never heard back from! FWIW the engine (https://github.com/dougkoellmer/swarm https://github.com/dougkoellmer/swarm) that runs the website doesn't care what the layout of the cells are. For example here's a prototype textbook reader: http://eagrereader.appspot.com/ http://eagrereader.appspot.com/
- geocrasher 10y agoYeah the accidental swastika needs to go. Even though everyone knows it's not a swastika, the emotional reference is formed before logic takes over.
- sxv 10y agoThe emotional reference needs to go. Swastikas were around long before nazis and they'll be around long after. It's a pretty fundamental shape.
- grenoire 10y agoThe first one you linked messes up with my scrolling and makes is incredibly slow, I have to use the thin scrollbar on the rights side due to that...
- mdrzn 10y agoSame, I think it's on purpose.
- dsp1234 10y agoWhy would someone purposefully make navigation of their site significantly worse than the default?
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- Cymen 10y agoI've seen slower scrolling done to improve the "mouth feel" of the website. It's usually a designer wanting to do it without considering the full ramifications of their whimsy.
- dougk16 10y agoDid you mean worrydream or my personal website? If you mean mine, sorry for the scroll-jacking! It's been a few years since I've touched the input handling code and that kind of stuff tends to rust really fast. Might have to go back in there.
- mdrzn 10y agoTalking about worrydream.com
- wlesieutre 10y agoYeah, I'm in Chrome on Windows and a full spin of the scroll wheel moves it down about 5 pixels. Given how much thought he puts into user experience in his projects, that's really weird. I have to scroll with click and drag and sort of "throw" the page upward as if I'm using a touchscreen.
- cagmz 10y agoYour first demo link [1] to Swarm on your resume is broken for me. [1]: http://www.b33hive.net/ http://www.b33hive.net/
- dougk16 10y agoBah yea need to update that, thanks for the heads up.
- rocky1138 10y agoHow could you possibly list worrydream.com when it completely breaks the scroll wheel?
- mikecsh 10y agoBecause one issue does not negate an enormous treasure trove of content
- pen2l 10y agoMy corporate firewall has your domain name on a shitlist, for the stated reason of distributing viruses and malware. Have you been told this before?
- dougk16 10y agoCould you give me any more information? My original site (years and years ago) was a PHP monster that got hacked briefly through a security vulnerability in my hosting provider (wasn't my fault, I swear!), so maybe the corporate firewall just has a long memory?
- pen2l 10y agoI'll try to get more info when I get time. I'm not really sure what software my place uses for blocking sites. Here's one message I get: "This page has been blocked by the PaloAlto URL filtering device." -- and then it tells me the site is contained in a "malware" category.
- amberj 10y agoDid anyone bumped into the easter egg on his site? If not, try to click on the "purveyor of impossible dreams" text below his name/logo thingie (and keep clicking!) PS: If you are patient enough to wait for 45 clicks, you will bump into the second easter egg ;-)
- valarauca1 10y agoI thought worrydream was very nice and I could see why it was being upvoted. Then I enabled JS, and it completely breaks scrolling and loads a ton of images :|
- ryanSrich 10y agoHighlighting worrydream (I think) was less about the site, and more about the site content. Bret Victor has dedicated an incredible amount of time to writing about design [1], visualization[2], reality[3], climate change[4], among other things. 1. http://worrydream.com/#!/LearnableProgramming http://worrydream.com/#!/LearnableProgramming 2. http://worrydream.com/#!2/LadderOfAbstraction http://worrydream.com/#!2/LadderOfAbstraction 3. https://vimeo.com/115154289 https://vimeo.com/115154289 4. http://worrydream.com/#!/ClimateChange http://worrydream.com/#!/ClimateChange
- haar 10y agohttp://worrydream.com http://worrydream.com was a horrible experience for me. Between the extremely slow scroll-hijacking and disabling of my vim-based scroll events it was a nightmare to try to navigate and I gave up without actually viewing any of the projects. Even using my colleagues hyper scroll wheel gave us a brief chuckle before quitting the page entirely.
- INTPenis 10y agoFunny enough my first experience with worrydream was without JS, as with most new websites. And it's much better then.
- exclusiv 10y agoPerhaps you should start a startup that lists sites friendly for vim-based scroll events.
- wyclif 10y agoHe didn't argue his point well by bringing up vim, but he does have a point. It loaded very slowly and isn't designed that well.
- nateberkopec 10y agoMan, downloading all the images on worrydream.com takes me 5 full seconds, and I have a 50 megabit line.
- jsingleton 10y ago+1 for worrydream.com. I don't mind the scrolling, once you're in a post it's fine. It's an experiment in UX after all. This is the best one I've read: http://worrydream.com/#!/ClimateChange http://worrydream.com/#!/ClimateChange The visualisations and interactions are really helpful in aiding understanding. It's nice to see people trying out new ways of presenting information.
- majortennis 10y agotrying to scroll is horrible
- gkya 10y agoWRT your website, it's quite nice of you that you've added the message "you need js for this website". Maybe better if you add a little personal information to that message too, like "Hey I'm Doug, I'm a software dev, and this is my website. You need JS enabled for it to function. Otherwise reach me at <mail <at> domain>." This'd be more intriguing to enable JS. And when I enabled it I liked what I got, a nice idea. WRT Bret's website, it's the type of website I'd pass if I wasn't told that there's sth. interesting in it. A black window w/o JS, and when enabled, it takes 5-10 seconds to just show me some text b/c needs to load custom fonts and loads of JS, and then messes up my scroll. Yours is a creative thing and I like it, but this one just imitates badly the normal scolling. Plain awful.
- dougk16 10y agoHey thanks, really nice focused feedback there that I will take action on. A pipe dream I have is to actually make the engine powering my website work without JS as well. So a zoom/swipe navigation would actually go up to the server to get a fresh static html page that would render all the cells at their appropriate location/size. Kind of like how the very first map apps worked online. It would be a little clunky obviously but I think still usable. I had no idea Bret's website would be so polarizing! I appreciate it in a more idealized sense, so "assuming JS is enabled and scrolling works right and you have a fast internet", and of course for the content itself. If he was the kind of person that had to look for jobs then I'd recommend fixing those things as well.
- gkya 10y agoI guess who don't have JS in these days are mostly the ones who disabled it in purpose. So a message inviting them to enable would be enough. Also, it's harder for some handicapped people to use interactive websites, so they'd rather have a nice plain alternative than an imitation of the interactive site that's equally harder to use. And, you're welcome :) Bret's website is an obstacle to the content therewithin. If all he cares is getting hired, then well... But if it's sharing information, he should fix that website.
- andre-p 10y agoAm I missing some sort of joke here? These are exactly the types of pages that I would recommend avoiding. If your're hoping to convince employers of your technical skills I would put examples of your work up front. Unless you're applying for jobs where "unique" UIs are valued (designing ad agency sites?) then it will actually detract from your goal.
- chevas 10y agoThis. In addition, the readability is straight-up bad on many of these.
- coleifer 10y agoI'm amazed this is the top comment. I've seen skid-marks in the toilet that looked better than worrydream. And the user experience is completely banjaxed. Scrolling with the mousewheel barely changes the Y-position. My vim plugin keybindings don't work. Fucking pagedown doesn't even work. Ugh. Also notice that DougK (the commenter) has been kind enough to post his own site (which fucking sucks). Turn down the narcissism.
- sctb 10y agoThis is not a civil comment. Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- nullundefined 10y agoI don't find worry dream to be aesthetically pleasing.
- wcummings 10y agoThe scrolling is sooooooooooo choppy.
- jyriand 10y agoAfter looking at worrydream.com, everything seems little bit tilted now.
- ge96 10y agoWhoa that spiral layout/zoom one is really sweet. Neat idea!
- laxatives 10y agoEveryone is going nuts about the presentation/scrolling/UI of worrydream, but they are missing out on the goldmine of what he's actually been working on: http://worrydream.com/#!/Showreel2012 http://worrydream.com/#!/Showreel2012 Its absolutely insane someone could be that productive in 2 years. A lot of the ideas in that showreel are incredible. Yeah many of them probably don't work, but I saw dozens of new interactions that don't exist anywhere else. Plus the demo is >4 years old. That's amazing. His CV has the following quote: “One of the greatest user interface design minds in the world today.” — Alan Kay People are obsessed with getting immediate gratification and have little to no attention span these days.
- popey456963 10y agoThe thing that got to me about how amazing his website was is how many of his sites I've actually seen, used and been impressed with that were all built by him. I also honestly can't say I've faced the usage issues other people have. It was a pleasure to look through a bunch of his stuff and I actually kept on looking for fun.
- laxatives 10y agoHonestly, this guy is a genius. And people can't get over that their scroll wheel doesn't work on a website that hasn't been updated in half a decade.
- notzorbo3 10y agoIn the context of a showcase website, first impressions matter. You want the work to be front and center. Not the fact that you can't design a usable website.
- mikecsh 10y agoTo a degree. Sometimes it's OK for the user to have to put a modicum of effort in, especially for something which is not a product or service.
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- unimpressive 10y agoWow, your site has the most original interface I've ever seen. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it certainly leaves an impression.