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It's nice to see that libertarian ideas are winning at least in some counties when in most of the world governments get more and more control over people's live

It's nice to see that libertarian ideas are winning at least in some counties when in most of the world governments get more and more control over people's lives.

tracker1 10y ago
I wish that Johnson had been better prepped for some of his interviews. I really don't like where the democons are headed in this country.
- taurath 10y ago
  I'm holding hope for an actual political act to happen - there is remarkably much for the alt-right and the left to agree on, if the ideas can be put forth in such a way that they aren't wedged against each other. If the democratic party becomes the moderate republican party then you'll see a lot of the left break away.
- HillRat 10y ago
  No amount of prep was going to help that train wreck -- Johnson never had a reputation as a particularly smart politician (he was rather proud of his ignorance, actually), but he showed less knowledge of world affairs than the average evening news viewer. And he's still the most credible candidate the Libertarian party has posted! If you want libertarian views to gain political credibility, you'd probably be better advised to try to start within the GOP, especially given the state of factional conflict likely to follow Election Day. Libertarian, moderate and the few remaining Rockefeller-style Republicans are the only ones who have kept their hands clean when it comes to Trump, and who have an arguable basis for reconstructing the party -- though it would be a long slog to do so.
  - hood_syntax 10y ago
    The GOP has made it clear they don't want a libertarian a la the Pauls. I don't think it can happen with the hard push to the social right they've made in the past 8 years.
  - john111 10y ago
    "he was rather proud of his ignorance, actually" Can you give me an example of this? I'm a Johnson fan, and I've never perceived him as being proud of ignorance at all. In fact, I thought his response to the Aleppo gaffe was spot on. I think the media was really unfair with that, as they give Clinton and Trump passes on much more egregious errors.
- poshli 10y ago
  The Mark Ames Media Empire are not big fans of Johnson https://pando.com/2016/01/08/interview-weed-nazi-mark-ames-and-max-blumenthal-talk-gary-johnson/ https://pando.com/2016/01/08/interview-weed-nazi-mark-ames-a...
beardog 10y ago
The pirate party is actually pretty socialist.
- adventured 10y ago
  Half the libertarian position is typically about being very socially liberal (privacy, freedom of speech, religious freedom, marriage equality (via removal of the state from that equation), drug decriminalization/legalization, et al). The pirate party tends toward socially liberal based on what I've read over the years. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  - Natanael_L 10y ago
    They originated from Sweden's Pirate Party, which to a large part is social liberal (a mix of socialist and advocating individual freedom). While not all "copies" of the party abroad necessarily has adopted the same position, it seems many of them did.
- icebraining 10y ago
  Libertarian has different meanings: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
  - tremon 10y ago
    Yes, but since Iceland is geographically part of Europe, it is better to use the European definitions to avoid ambiguity.
    - icebraining 10y ago
      I'm not sure what you're referring to; I live in Europe, and the Center of Libertarian Culture near my house is socialist. And if you read the link, it explains that the term originated in Europe and meant left-wing anarchist. I think right-wing libertarianism is mostly an US thing.
jamnik 10y ago
I hope you're not talking about Russia where Snowden lives
- ionised 10y ago
  The country in question is Iceland. Read the article.
- sctb 10y ago
  We've banned this account for posting only inflammatory political comments.
  - jamnik 10y ago
    Thanks you SJW! Remember, if trump wins this November this will be in huge part due to absolutely obvious and blatant cultural marxists destroying first amendment rights like you. You see all we want to see is you hypocrites crying mama. Can't wait!

It's nice to see that libertarian ideas are winning at least in some counties when in most of the world governments get more and more control over people's lives.

tracker1 10y ago

I wish that Johnson had been better prepped for some of his interviews. I really don't like where the democons are headed in this country.

taurath 10y ago
I'm holding hope for an actual political act to happen - there is remarkably much for the alt-right and the left to agree on, if the ideas can be put forth in such a way that they aren't wedged against each other. If the democratic party becomes the moderate republican party then you'll see a lot of the left break away.
HillRat 10y ago
No amount of prep was going to help that train wreck -- Johnson never had a reputation as a particularly smart politician (he was rather proud of his ignorance, actually), but he showed less knowledge of world affairs than the average evening news viewer. And he's still the most credible candidate the Libertarian party has posted! If you want libertarian views to gain political credibility, you'd probably be better advised to try to start within the GOP, especially given the state of factional conflict likely to follow Election Day. Libertarian, moderate and the few remaining Rockefeller-style Republicans are the only ones who have kept their hands clean when it comes to Trump, and who have an arguable basis for reconstructing the party -- though it would be a long slog to do so.
- hood_syntax 10y ago
  The GOP has made it clear they don't want a libertarian a la the Pauls. I don't think it can happen with the hard push to the social right they've made in the past 8 years.
- john111 10y ago
  "he was rather proud of his ignorance, actually" Can you give me an example of this? I'm a Johnson fan, and I've never perceived him as being proud of ignorance at all. In fact, I thought his response to the Aleppo gaffe was spot on. I think the media was really unfair with that, as they give Clinton and Trump passes on much more egregious errors.
poshli 10y ago
The Mark Ames Media Empire are not big fans of Johnson https://pando.com/2016/01/08/interview-weed-nazi-mark-ames-and-max-blumenthal-talk-gary-johnson/ https://pando.com/2016/01/08/interview-weed-nazi-mark-ames-a...

beardog 10y ago

The pirate party is actually pretty socialist.

adventured 10y ago
Half the libertarian position is typically about being very socially liberal (privacy, freedom of speech, religious freedom, marriage equality (via removal of the state from that equation), drug decriminalization/legalization, et al). The pirate party tends toward socially liberal based on what I've read over the years. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- Natanael_L 10y ago
  They originated from Sweden's Pirate Party, which to a large part is social liberal (a mix of socialist and advocating individual freedom). While not all "copies" of the party abroad necessarily has adopted the same position, it seems many of them did.
icebraining 10y ago
Libertarian has different meanings: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
- tremon 10y ago
  Yes, but since Iceland is geographically part of Europe, it is better to use the European definitions to avoid ambiguity.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    I'm not sure what you're referring to; I live in Europe, and the Center of Libertarian Culture near my house is socialist. And if you read the link, it explains that the term originated in Europe and meant left-wing anarchist. I think right-wing libertarianism is mostly an US thing.

jamnik 10y ago

I hope you're not talking about Russia where Snowden lives

ionised 10y ago
The country in question is Iceland. Read the article.
sctb 10y ago
We've banned this account for posting only inflammatory political comments.
- jamnik 10y ago
  Thanks you SJW! Remember, if trump wins this November this will be in huge part due to absolutely obvious and blatant cultural marxists destroying first amendment rights like you. You see all we want to see is you hypocrites crying mama. Can't wait!