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Just three years ago: https://twitter.com/mmflint/status/309124649244057600 https://twitter.com/mmflint/status/309124649244057600

tptacek 10y ago
Dude is wrong on the Internet. More news at 11.
- andrenth 10y ago
  More like "Dude and the whole leftist intellectual elite are wrong on the Internet, will never acknowledge being wrong and will be wrong again the next time the same thing happens. News at 11."
  - tptacek 10y ago
    How seriously am I supposed to take someone who implies that the leader of a "leftist intellectual elite" (whatever that is) is Michael Moore?
    - oh_sigh 10y ago
      Where did OP imply that MM was the leader of the leftist intellectual elite?
    - andrenth 10y ago
      I have never implied that.
      - tptacek 10y ago
        I think you did. It's hard to imagine why you'd have cited Michael Moore in the same breath as "leftist intellectual elite" otherwise. How credible would I sound talking about a right-wing intellectual elite after referencing something Ann Coulter had said? Because that's who Michael Moore is: the Ann Coulter of the left.
        andrenth 10y ago
        Because 1) the GP referred to a Michael Moore twit and 2) the leftist intellectual elite did support Chavez. I have never claimed Michael Moore belongs to the intellectual elite, much less that he somehow leads it. Both have supported Chavez and therefore I have mentioned both "in the same breath".
        tptacek 10y ago
        The "leftist intellectual elite" did not support Chavez.
    - atmosx 10y ago
      I think Chomsky is more appropriate, although the leader? I don't know... There is a raise of leftists (at least in speech because in substance from Sanders to Corbyn there so much "left", rather a mild "right")
- CptJamesCook 10y ago
  In 2005, Time magazine named Moore one of the world's 100 most influential people. So, not exactly just a dude. Michael Moore represents a growing anti-capitalist ideology in America, and when their socialist experiments fail it should be noted.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    Again not clear on why I'm meant to care what the Ann Coulter of the left thinks about Venezuela. He has lots of nice things to say about Fidel Castro era Cuba as well.
    - CptJamesCook 10y ago
      One reason is that Bernie Sanders, who was not that far off from winning the presidency, takes him very seriously. From Michael Moore's website: "I first endorsed Bernie Sanders for public office in 1990 when he, as mayor of Burlington, VT, asked me to come up there and hold a rally for him in his run to become Vermont’s congressman."
      - tptacek 10y ago
        I call 100% absolute total bullshit on the idea that Bernie Sanders takes any of his cues from Michael Moore, and I happily voted against Sanders in the Illinois primary because I thought he'd make a terrible President. This is an extremely silly attempt to salvage a hopeless argument that Michael Moore is a meaningful data point.
njharman 10y ago
Three years is a long time.

tptacek 10y ago

Dude is wrong on the Internet. More news at 11.

andrenth 10y ago
More like "Dude and the whole leftist intellectual elite are wrong on the Internet, will never acknowledge being wrong and will be wrong again the next time the same thing happens. News at 11."
- tptacek 10y ago
  How seriously am I supposed to take someone who implies that the leader of a "leftist intellectual elite" (whatever that is) is Michael Moore?
  - oh_sigh 10y ago
    Where did OP imply that MM was the leader of the leftist intellectual elite?
  - andrenth 10y ago
    I have never implied that.
    - tptacek 10y ago
      I think you did. It's hard to imagine why you'd have cited Michael Moore in the same breath as "leftist intellectual elite" otherwise. How credible would I sound talking about a right-wing intellectual elite after referencing something Ann Coulter had said? Because that's who Michael Moore is: the Ann Coulter of the left.
      - andrenth 10y ago
        Because 1) the GP referred to a Michael Moore twit and 2) the leftist intellectual elite did support Chavez. I have never claimed Michael Moore belongs to the intellectual elite, much less that he somehow leads it. Both have supported Chavez and therefore I have mentioned both "in the same breath".
        tptacek 10y ago
        The "leftist intellectual elite" did not support Chavez.
  - atmosx 10y ago
    I think Chomsky is more appropriate, although the leader? I don't know... There is a raise of leftists (at least in speech because in substance from Sanders to Corbyn there so much "left", rather a mild "right")
CptJamesCook 10y ago
In 2005, Time magazine named Moore one of the world's 100 most influential people. So, not exactly just a dude. Michael Moore represents a growing anti-capitalist ideology in America, and when their socialist experiments fail it should be noted.
- tptacek 10y ago
  Again not clear on why I'm meant to care what the Ann Coulter of the left thinks about Venezuela. He has lots of nice things to say about Fidel Castro era Cuba as well.
  - CptJamesCook 10y ago
    One reason is that Bernie Sanders, who was not that far off from winning the presidency, takes him very seriously. From Michael Moore's website: "I first endorsed Bernie Sanders for public office in 1990 when he, as mayor of Burlington, VT, asked me to come up there and hold a rally for him in his run to become Vermont’s congressman."
    - tptacek 10y ago
      I call 100% absolute total bullshit on the idea that Bernie Sanders takes any of his cues from Michael Moore, and I happily voted against Sanders in the Illinois primary because I thought he'd make a terrible President. This is an extremely silly attempt to salvage a hopeless argument that Michael Moore is a meaningful data point.

njharman 10y ago

Three years is a long time.