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I'm guessing it has far more to do with network connectivity than the tablet itself. The problems he describes to me sound like exactly what I would expect in

by tw04 10y ago

I'm guessing it has far more to do with network connectivity than the tablet itself. The problems he describes to me sound like exactly what I would expect in a stadium filled with 100,000 cellphones emitting wifi and cellular interference. I'm guessing the NFL didn't get clearance from the FCC to use a dedicated wavelength within the stadium to isolate their systems from noise.

notatoad 10y ago
>I'm guessing the NFL didn't get clearance from the FCC to use a dedicated wavelength within the stadium to isolate their systems from noise. if they had, would the surface tablets have been able to use it? I'm not aware of any licensed spectrum that standard wifi cards are capable of communicating on.
- frisco 10y ago
  Channel 14 is used in some Asian markets but illegal in the US, there's consumer hardware that can use it out there.
mikey_p 10y ago
There is actually an immense amount of coordination that goes into an NFL game, even more so for the Super Bowl: * http://blog.rfvenue.com/karl-voss/ http://blog.rfvenue.com/karl-voss/ "... at the Super Bowl we manage ... basically anything D/C to light that is allowed inside the NFL venues.
- erobbins 10y ago
  Yep. I had a friend who worked the Super Bowl, his only job was to detect and locate (and handle) rogue sources of RF energy.
gdulli 10y ago
> I'm guessing it has far more to do with network connectivity than the tablet itself That view is reinforced here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/patriots-bill-belichick-dumps-surface-tablets-in-five-minute-rant/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/patriots-bill-belichi... "Microsoft's hardware isn't necessarily the culprit here, merely the victim. The NFL uses a lot of wireless hardware—communications headsets, public Wi-Fi networks, private networks for the tablets, networks for the press, and more."
huac 10y ago
Tell that to the Patriots' opponents: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/at-least-five-teams-have-suspected-patriots-of-headset-tampering/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/at-least-fiv...
- edroche 10y ago
  This has been a ongoing problem in the entire NFL, not just in New England. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/coaches-say-headset-problems-happen-often-outside-new-england/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/coaches-say-...
criddell 10y ago
You might be right. I haven't heard of similar problems with iPads in baseball, but I think they aren't allowed to use the wifi.

by tw04 10y ago

notatoad 10y ago

>I'm guessing the NFL didn't get clearance from the FCC to use a dedicated wavelength within the stadium to isolate their systems from noise. if they had, would the surface tablets have been able to use it? I'm not aware of any licensed spectrum that standard wifi cards are capable of communicating on.

frisco 10y ago
Channel 14 is used in some Asian markets but illegal in the US, there's consumer hardware that can use it out there.

mikey_p 10y ago

There is actually an immense amount of coordination that goes into an NFL game, even more so for the Super Bowl: * http://blog.rfvenue.com/karl-voss/ http://blog.rfvenue.com/karl-voss/ "... at the Super Bowl we manage ... basically anything D/C to light that is allowed inside the NFL venues.

erobbins 10y ago
Yep. I had a friend who worked the Super Bowl, his only job was to detect and locate (and handle) rogue sources of RF energy.

gdulli 10y ago

> I'm guessing it has far more to do with network connectivity than the tablet itself That view is reinforced here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/patriots-bill-belichick-dumps-surface-tablets-in-five-minute-rant/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/patriots-bill-belichi... "Microsoft's hardware isn't necessarily the culprit here, merely the victim. The NFL uses a lot of wireless hardware—communications headsets, public Wi-Fi networks, private networks for the tablets, networks for the press, and more."

huac 10y ago

Tell that to the Patriots' opponents: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/at-least-five-teams-have-suspected-patriots-of-headset-tampering/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/at-least-fiv...

edroche 10y ago
This has been a ongoing problem in the entire NFL, not just in New England. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/coaches-say-headset-problems-happen-often-outside-new-england/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/12/coaches-say-...

criddell 10y ago

You might be right. I haven't heard of similar problems with iPads in baseball, but I think they aren't allowed to use the wifi.