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What is next? Perhaps YC should ask applicants for political affiliation? I think you're wrong and I think the reason YC will not drop Theil is very practical:

by fixxer 10y ago

What is next? Perhaps YC should ask applicants for political affiliation? I think you're wrong and I think the reason YC will not drop Theil is very practical: Theil is valuable for the underlying goal of the program (money) and dropping Theil would also alienate a huge (yes, yuuuge) swath of investors.

tptacek 10y ago
People --- more of them on my side of this debate than yours --- say this a lot. But I think more highly of Sam Altman than to believe he's standing by Peter Thiel, despite Thiel's work to elect someone both Altman and I believe to be an American Mussolini, simply out of financial expedience. It's that basic respect for Altman that motivates me to keep pressing this argument: the effort seems hopeful.
- fixxer 10y ago
  You'd support an affiliation filter?
  - tylersmith 10y ago
    Only if it's to filter out Republicans.
    - fixxer 10y ago
      Looking for a little affirmative action? ;)
- ryanSrich 10y ago
  > Mussolini This is the type of thing that really bothers me. Not only is that a ridiculous comparison, it's completely baseless and anti-intellectual. Trump has made a few off hand fascist remarks, but nothing that could substantiate him establishing legal dictatorship. So why even make that comparison? Just fuel the witch hunt?
  - tptacek 10y ago
    You should direct that question to the person who made the comparison. I agree with it, but I think you'll understand this thread more if you ask the person I'm referencing.
    - tylersmith 10y ago
      You said both you and Altman felt that way. Maybe you didn't create the comparison but you just repeated it and said you agreed. It's hyperbole like that that makes people not care about your Clinton zealotry.
  - danenania 10y ago
    What, you think someone seeking power is going to stand at a podium and announce "I want a fascist dictatorship"? He has been relentlessly attacking the legitimacy of democracy, encouraging political violence, stoking racial hatred, and threatening to imprison his opponent. On most days he does all of this before 11am. How much of a fucking hint do people need?
    - ythl 10y ago
      No, we can just see right through the gross hyperbole that people are so fond of invoking. It's like the anti-circumcision folks saying things like: "Circumcision is a barbaric practice in which babies have their genitals violently mutilated by religious nutjobs." People that have actually been circumcised roll their eyes at such a phrase because it completely disregards the meaning and weight of the words "barbaric", "mutilate", "violent", etc.
    - gspetr 10y ago
      > encouraging political violence And where did actual violence happen? How is it that it's his rallies that are violently attacked? And his headquarters that got firebombed. Not only that, the attackers had the gall to draw swastika and call the victims nazis.
      - 10y ago

by fixxer 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago

People --- more of them on my side of this debate than yours --- say this a lot. But I think more highly of Sam Altman than to believe he's standing by Peter Thiel, despite Thiel's work to elect someone both Altman and I believe to be an American Mussolini, simply out of financial expedience. It's that basic respect for Altman that motivates me to keep pressing this argument: the effort seems hopeful.

fixxer 10y ago
You'd support an affiliation filter?
- tylersmith 10y ago
  Only if it's to filter out Republicans.
  - fixxer 10y ago
    Looking for a little affirmative action? ;)
ryanSrich 10y ago
> Mussolini This is the type of thing that really bothers me. Not only is that a ridiculous comparison, it's completely baseless and anti-intellectual. Trump has made a few off hand fascist remarks, but nothing that could substantiate him establishing legal dictatorship. So why even make that comparison? Just fuel the witch hunt?
- tptacek 10y ago
  You should direct that question to the person who made the comparison. I agree with it, but I think you'll understand this thread more if you ask the person I'm referencing.
  - tylersmith 10y ago
    You said both you and Altman felt that way. Maybe you didn't create the comparison but you just repeated it and said you agreed. It's hyperbole like that that makes people not care about your Clinton zealotry.
- danenania 10y ago
  What, you think someone seeking power is going to stand at a podium and announce "I want a fascist dictatorship"? He has been relentlessly attacking the legitimacy of democracy, encouraging political violence, stoking racial hatred, and threatening to imprison his opponent. On most days he does all of this before 11am. How much of a fucking hint do people need?
  - ythl 10y ago
    No, we can just see right through the gross hyperbole that people are so fond of invoking. It's like the anti-circumcision folks saying things like: "Circumcision is a barbaric practice in which babies have their genitals violently mutilated by religious nutjobs." People that have actually been circumcised roll their eyes at such a phrase because it completely disregards the meaning and weight of the words "barbaric", "mutilate", "violent", etc.
  - gspetr 10y ago
    > encouraging political violence And where did actual violence happen? How is it that it's his rallies that are violently attacked? And his headquarters that got firebombed. Not only that, the attackers had the gall to draw swastika and call the victims nazis.
    - 10y ago