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Panoramio no longer available after Nov 4
- joosters 10y agoGoodbye to another Google service. To be fair, most of the features had been integrated into Google maps. Was there anything left?
- Symbiote 10y agoWas this the only source of geotagged photos that show in Google Maps? Since time ago, I added semantic web tags to my photo album, hoping they'd then appear on the public map. They already have location data in EXIF tags. Nothing happened. I don't know of any site that indexes images in this way.
- makomk 10y agoSometimes when you take a photo on Android, there's a (kind of creepy, honestly) notification from the Google Maps app asking to submit it to there. So I presume not.
- ungzd 10y agoNever seen this notification (used Android 4.1-3 and 5.0). And I don't know how to upload photo if I wish to. Checked Google Maps on desktop now and didn't find it. Google is creepy these days.
- modeless 10y agoNo, you can contribute photos directly in the Google Maps interface. It's consolidated with other contribution features like reviews and map editing (many people don't know that Google Maps has a public map editor). It's all part of a program called "Local Guides" that awards badges and points and perks like free Google Drive storage. The incentives seem designed to reward quick reviews much more than high quality photography though.
- sireat 10y agoGoogle Maps keeps pestering me to add my personal photos to various locations. That is I would take some pictures on my Android 5.1 phone and Google Maps would pop a notification. Not sure when it started but this kind of camera/Google Maps "integration" was not present in 4.4. The places of interest that Google detects are generally correct but I have zero interest in adding personal pictures to their public/private DB. I keep declining but my anger grows.
- triplesec 10y agoEspecially in the restrictive and rights-thieving T&C. The OS is badly compromised, and I'd like a better, proper open source option
- kps 10y agoTurn this off in the Maps app: Under the hamburger menu, Settings → Notifications → Your contributions.
- modeless 10y agoI understand that unsolicited notifications are annoying but all of the notifications can be very easily turned off. There's no need to seethe.
- shaqbert 10y agoOh, that makes me quite sentimental. All the time I wasted on Google Earth exploring lonely islands, Antarctica, and Kamchatka volcanoes... Panoramio, you will be missed.
- Buetol 10y agoLooks like it has already been archived by Archive Team, good job ! http://tracker.archiveteam.org/panoramio/ http://tracker.archiveteam.org/panoramio/
- phireal 10y agoIt's in the process of being archived and is not yet complete. If you have a spare sever and bandwidth somewhere, you can set up an ArchiveTeam Warrior. They exist as VM images and docker configurations. I've set up a docker instance of their Archive Team's archive warrior (http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warrior http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warri...) and it's currently ploughing its way through the remaining parts of Panoramio which are missing.
- userbinator 10y agoNo OpenDNS. No ISP DNS that redirects to a search page. Use non-captive DNS servers. I wonder why they're not running a local full DNS resolver if they're worried about bad DNS servers?
- hueving 10y agoISPs that block DNS to other servers in the name of "security".
- organsnyder 10y agoThanks for mentioning this. I wasn't aware of its existence; I'm now running a Warrior on a VPS, and will likely set up another one at home as well. It looks like the Panoramio project is returning no work; looking at the dashboard (http://tracker.archiveteam.org/panoramio/ http://tracker.archiveteam.org/panoramio/), it appears that the archive process is almost complete (still a lot of work out, if I'm reading it right).
- sp332 10y agoThe tracker is not always accurate because loading too many jobs can exhaust its RAM. Jobs are loaded in batches, so it may be that there are many more jobs to go.
- pmlnr 10y agoThis was an invaluable source for finding interesting areas close to you or to your travel destination. I'm already missing it; the Flickr world map is garbage compared to what Panoramio was. I'd love to see this resurrected somehow.
- modeless 10y agoGoogle has several other options for finding interesting areas close to you. The newest is Google Trips: https://get.google.com/trips/ https://get.google.com/trips/, a little older is Field Trip https://www.fieldtripper.com/ https://www.fieldtripper.com/, and of course Google Earth still has plenty of geotagged photos to explore, either in the client app or in the web version. Field Trip in particular is worth a look. It somehow contains a wealth of hyper-local information that you probably won't see elsewhere, at least for places in the US. I certainly learned things about the history of my local area that I never would have found out otherwise.
- CalRobert 10y agoIt's certainly not the same (a dump of geotagged photos), but I also enjoy finding cool stuff on road trips and made https://www.lanesurfing.com/ https://www.lanesurfing.com/ because nothing was quite what I was looking for. (side project for my own amusement, so no promises it works well in webkit or IE)
- tedmiston 10y agoA related startup in this space is Roadtrippers (https://roadtrippers.com/ https://roadtrippers.com/).
- raesene6 10y agoI was sorry to see this, although the writing has been on the cards for Panoramio for some time. It seems a really odd decision by Google, panoramio had a strong community which may well not migrate to the alternatives that google are suggesting and it provided a load of useful information for other Google services. Anyone know of decent similar alternatives? I know one large contributor who's moving off to Flickr, but is not very impressed by their mapping setup.
- ungzd 10y ago> Anyone know of decent similar alternatives? Mapillary. It's mostly for photo sequences (like streetview) but single photos are supported too.
- eb0la 10y agoIt's interesting to read this blog post from Eduardo Machon (Panoramio co-founder) about the day they said no to google - 1 year before they bought Panoramio. (In Spanish) https://eduardomanchon.com/el-d%C3%ADa-que-rechazamos-una-oferta-de-compra-de-google-cae425bc763 https://eduardomanchon.com/el-d%C3%ADa-que-rechazamos-una-of...
- amelius 10y agoThat's the sad thing of the cloud. Back in the old days, you could just run applications for as long as you wanted. I'm wondering how long it will take until everybody sees this.
- dpark 10y agoThis is a legitimate concern, but customers have to balance the utility against the risk of this happening. If an app works for a few years and then shuts down, do you get enough utility out of those years to offset the inconvenience? Would an offline app even be able to provide the desired utility? Probably not if a key part of the product is social.
- mseebach 10y agoThat's seeing history through some very rose tinted glasses. Sure, yes, you technically could, but you'd soon find yourself running old versions of OSs and various supporting software as well which gets real hairy real quick (say, running IE6 to keep using some web app that may well run, but has long ceased to receive updates). And then there's the less-than-ideal situation of trusting data to (or your systems with) an EOL'd application that won't even see security patching.
- VLM 10y agoBut isn't that the whole point of the argument, letting the user decide how valuable his data is rather than some impersonal cloud provider? Certainly some data is more valuable than other. Is a hundred IT labor hours cheap or expensive compared to all pieces of data? Who knows best, the end user or big brother?
- dahart 10y agoSeems specious; this thread isn't about the data at all. In this case, Panoramio's only decision about the data was to keep the service running for years just to give users a chance to export & keep any data they want, and also offer a migration path to other services that can still work with the data. I'm not sure what I'd do with data from Panoramio. I certainly don't have a local application on my computer that can read or edit that data. In general, most cloud services I've seen shut down do the same, often on tighter deadlines. While it may have happened at some point, I've never seen happen what you suggest. I've never seen a cloud service makes a judgement call about how valuable someone's data is, and not allow it out when the service is EOLd.
- ungzd 10y agoTakeout is available (https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout). There's similar modern service for geotagged photos called Mapillary where you can migrate photos from Panoramio http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2016/10/10/migrating-from-panoramio-a-new-home-for-geotagged-photos.html http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2016/10/10/migrating-from-p...
- pmontra 10y agoTL;DR Google attempted an acquihire on October 2006 but they refused because they wanted to see the real value of the service and their know how first. Google bought Panoramio on March 2007. I don't know on which terms.
- tedmiston 10y agoReading between the lines of the (translated) blog post make it sound better. He refers to the Oct 2006 attempt as an acquihire but Mar 2007 as actual acquisition.
- tedmiston 10y agoFor reference it was this post mentioned above: https://eduardomanchon.com/el-d%C3%ADa-que-rechazamos-una-oferta-de-compra-de-google-cae425bc763 https://eduardomanchon.com/el-d%C3%ADa-que-rechazamos-una-of...
- edpichler 10y agoGoogle is really good on killing services. If it's does not make an incredible amount of money, they just kill it. They are not dumb, of course, so this apparently seems to be a good strategy.
- yitchelle 10y agoMaybe I am being too cynical, but they are running a business after all. I guess they showed some goodwill by delaying their shutdown from when they first announced it.
- Klathmon 10y agoThe thing i don't get about the Google "shutdown" hate, is that I don't think they've ever given less than a year notice, they ALWAYS have a way to export your data in at least one common format (often more), and in many cases they even point out 3rd party alternatives (although in this case it doesn't look like they did). IMO they handle shutdowns the best out of any company i've ever seen. And at least with their services you'll have some heads up that it is going to be shut down, whereas if you go with a startup or smaller company, you sometimes have literally no notice at all. It's their way of working, try new things, kill those that aren't working out. And I like the way it works, but I fear that a lot of people hate it and that it's going away... (although I guess it's kind of ironic that i'm mourning the loss of a "way of working" much the same way that people are mourning the loss of the service)
- Doctor_Fegg 10y agoReally sad to see this. In the UK and Ireland there is a superb community project, Geograph (http://www.geograph.org.uk/ http://www.geograph.org.uk/), which collects geotagged photos and makes them available under an open licence. For example, I've integrated it into my bike routeplanner at http://cycle.travel/map http://cycle.travel/map so that you can see photos of a trail before riding it, so you know what sort of surface to expect. Panoramio was the nearest to a worldwide equivalent. (There's Mapillary, of course, but their base API access is $99/month. OpenStreetView looks promising but it's early days for them.)
- smpetrey 10y agoAh man, knew this one was coming one day. But you know what Google Local Guides is awesome. If you're a fan of Panoramio go sign up and become a Local Guide.
- triplesec 10y agoExcept their T&C are revoltingly grabbing of image rights. No thanks.